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Well, that's not what Politifact found:
Our conclusion: Maddow and the others are wrong.
There is, indeed, a projected deficit that required attention, and Walker and GOP lawmakers did not create it. [...]
The confusion, it appears, stems from a section in [Director of the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau Robert] Lang’s memo that -- read on its own -- does project a $121 million surplus in the state’s general fund as of June 30, 2011.
But the remainder of the routine memo -- consider it the fine print -- outlines $258 million in unpaid bills or expected shortfalls in programs such as Medicaid services for the needy ($174 million alone), the public defender’s office and corrections. Additionally, the state owes Minnesota $58.7 million under a discontinued tax reciprocity deal.
The result, by our math and Lang’s, is the $137 million shortfall.
It would be closer to the $340 million figure if the figure included the $200 million owed to the state’s patient compensation fund, a debt courts have declared resulted from an illegal raid on the fund under former Gov. Jim Doyle.
A court ruling is pending in that matter, so the money might not have to be transferred until next budget year.
Read more: newsbusters.org...
Originally posted by Byteman
reply to post by David9176
Yeah, we're just a bunch of morons who can't think for ourselves. We must all watch the news and take it for gospel.
Heavens forbid that some of us look at the facts for ourselves, and conclude that the modern Union is just an extortion racket to get lazy factory-trained assembly-line workers $100 an hour in pay and benefits. When truly skilled and apprenticed workers typically only charge $60.
BTW, right wing people are going to completely ignore this quote from the article:
"At the beginning of this year, the state was on course to end 2011 with a budget surplus of $120 million. As Ezra Klein explained, newly elected GOP Governor Scott Walker then " signed two business tax breaks and a conservative health-care policy experiment that lowers overall tax revenues."
Why? Because the American right wing has become dishonest.
Update: I've been persuaded that the surplus-to-deficit picture is more complicated that I initially understood.
The $130 million deficit now projected for 2011 isn't the fault of the tax breaks passed during Walker's special session ... .
Originally posted by General.Lee
I disagree with your assessment. I don't believe either party is partial to business and I don't believe either party has a monopoly on elitism. If you look at some of the riches men, they are by and large, democrats. George Soros, the Rockerfellers,
Big business typically swings in whatever direction will benefit them most. Google is frequently associated with the democrats as is Bill Gates. If you do any research, you will find that the wealth in congress and the senate swings both ways but frequently goes in favor of the democrats. Wall Street is typically sided with democrats as well.
If you do a simple, cursory search you will find that the perpetuated myth that republicans/conservatives are the people of money, is just that...a myth.
Furthermore, if you're going to use Wisconsin as a basis for your conclusion, lets bring Detroit into the picture. The population has been reduced by nearly 50% in the last 10 years, hundreds of thousands of jobs have been lost, home value has plummeted to the point where they are bulldozing them over and the state as well as the city of Detroit have been run by democrats for the last 8 years. It is a disaster created by liberal policies, corruption and unions. So, if we're going to play the "anecdotal evidence" game, well, I say "bring it". Next stop, California.edit on 20-2-2011 by General.Lee because: (no reason given)
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but don't workers give up part of their pay in hopes that the money will go to a retirement fund, isn't that money something that they already earned and saved?
Originally posted by MRuss
*UNIONS are largely responsible for the outsourcing of labor to foreign countries.
*Unions crippled the auto industry with exorbitant wages, benefits and self-serving union bosses.
*It is difficult to fire incompetent workers and reward ones who perform exceptionally well. This can distort incentives in the labor market.
*Unions have declined largely because they have become less relevant in a global economy...
*Unions have negotiated benefits in excess of company profits so much so that the airlines have had to declare bankruptcy and divest themselves of their pension obligations in order to stay in business.
*Unions, through these ridiculously high wages for unskilled labor, exacerbate the demand for illegal alien labor.
Be warned: The MacIver Institute is a not a news service.
It is not a member of the traditional media. It is a right wing educational “charitable” organization and it is gathering footage to advance its conservative, anti-worker agenda.
Talking to the MacIver Institute is abetting the conservative movement in its efforts to ensure progressive values and issues are not a part of the public policy debate. MacIver has spent considerable time criticizing the 2009-11 state budget, the Recovery Act, reforming the health insurance industry and stopping global climate change. MacIver is financed and run by leading conservatives, many with long ties to the Republican Party. Speaking on camera with the MacIver Institute helps the conservative movement by giving legitimacy to its faux “reporting,” as its “interviews” are regularly posted on the MacIver website.
WHO IS THE MACIVER INSTITUTE
The MacIver Institute is a conservative, pro-corporate organization founded in 2009 to advance conservative ideas and values. Its top staff is long-time Republican campaign strategists and its board of directors includes leading Republicans, most notably Mark Block, the head of Americans for Prosperity-WI, Fred Lubar, deep-pocketed Republican donor and Jim Troupis, lawyer to leading Republicans such as Assembly Speaker Scott Jensen and ethically-challenged Supreme Court Justices Mike Gableman and Annette Ziegler.
MacIver’s top staffers include both the former Chief of Staff to Scott Jensen and former GOP state senate caucus head and campaign strategist for top Republicans including Attorney General JB Van Hollen.
Jensen Ties: Initially, MacIver attempted to distance itself from Jensen, stating through a spokesperson that the former Assembly Speaker has no “formal role” with the organization. An investigation by Eye On Wisconsin's Cory Liebmann revealed that the properties of several initial communications from MacIver included the electronic imprint of Scott Jensen. Milwaukee Magazine also talked with Jensen about his involvement and after a preliminary denial, the reporter wrote “Later, Jensen amended that he is a consultant and his ‘main client’ is Alliance for School Choices.” [Milwaukee Magazine.com, 3/10/09]
MacIver has begun dispatching a new staffer, former Rock County television reporter Bill Osmulski, to events to film events and create conservative propaganda pieces as “news reports.” These “reports” are put onto the MacIver website and available for public consumption.
MacIver hews to the standard conservative lines and its talking points are echoed in the arguments of the state’s leading Republican elected officials. It has referred to the 2009-11 state budget as “$12.8 billion of bad” and “driven by politics and devoid of principle,” has called health insurance reforms at the federal level “budget busting” and has criticized cap and trade. Its top target though, has been the federal Recovery Act and the use of those funds by the state legislature. In repeated postings on its website, MacIver attempts to make the case the legislature and the federal government failed in efforts to solve the economic crisis created by the failed policies of the Bush administration and that the legislature and federal government have failed to create much-needed jobs. [MacIver Institute Website]
Immediately after it hired its phony news “reporter,” MacIver was plunged into controversy when it was confirmed the MacIver staffer had gotten an interview with two elected officials by allowing the two elected officials “to think he was just interviewing the two politicians for a local television station, all three men confirmed...” [Wisconsin State Journal, 9/5/09]
One Wisconsin Now supports healthy and vibrant public policy discussions and this rightfully requires public officials to regularly talk with the media. This does not apply to the MacIver Institute, an ideologically-driven organization, created to advance a policy agenda, in this case an ultra-conservative one.