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Lost Cosomauts - What we dont know about!

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posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by Aquarius1
reply to post by MrChaz
 


Sounds like you are talking about Apollo 13, they were safely returned to earth after an explosion on board and the mission was aborted and they never landed on the Moon. If you haven't watched the movie called Apollo 13 you should, it is pretty accurate.


en.wikipedia.org...


Yeah i read and seen the film,but it wasnt that i know that for sure.thanks for the thought though.


On a side note whats the odds this has happened many times before and the capsules have floated out too space only too be picked up by another species.
Maybe they got curious and traced them back too earth.The questions could really start coming out if you thought about what could be .

edit on 19/2/11 by MrChaz because: Added a thought.




posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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The Soviet space program was also a big PR show. Just like NASA missions, things could go wrong, and did, but they wanted to be sure they were covered, no matter what the outcome.

Yuri Gagarin, the accepted "first human in space", was a great example of a cosmonaut who may NOT have been the historic "first" that history records. In 1961, when this bit of history was taking place, the US was monitoring the situation carefully, and the evidence seemed to show that the mission was NOT a success.

What apparently happened was that Gagarin was flown in, by plane, as the vehicle returned, being conveniently photographed as he parachuted to safety, and victory. By all appearances, he was never on that mission to begin with, someone else probably taking his place, possibly dying, never to be known, and whoever this real cosmonaut was, it looks like he took the bullet for Gagarin, the photogenic hero, who got all the glory.

The US was aware of the charade, but chose to take the "high road", and send congratulations anyway, instead of causing a stir, and risk being portrayed as spoiled sports.

It went both ways, and over the years, probably lots of "mistakes" were covered, both sides mutually agreeing that the public was better served by their deceptions.

Gagarin was ever the reluctant "hero", apparently too much integrity to just go with it. He was a monumental hero in the public eye, but "what if" he cracked, and let the cat out of the bag? His drinking was out of control, he did get violent here and there, etc. Of course, he was watched constantly, and did not remain alive long, dying under mysterious circumstances when his plane went down only seven years afterward.

But Mother Russia got to keep their forever-young handsome hero, who conveniently died before screwing it all up.

What we don't know about?

As Spock used to say...

"Indeed."

JR



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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Maybe you are experiencing time slips, do you remember when people thought that Nelson Mandela was dead, strange things have happened and if we are living simultaneous lives in parallel universes or dimensions it may make sense.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 02:47 AM
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A lot would depend on an unprotected corps's proximity to a star as to how long it would last in deep space recognizably. Metal and rock would obviously outlast existence exposed to solar radiation, the temperature means little, organic compounds would loose their cohesion and atomically break apart eventually like the white coals of a campfire, not destroyed, just dispersed.

An interesting thing I hear about metallic particles in space, act like magnets attracted to other metallic particles like planets forming in a new star system. I can't site a link as at the time I didn't bookmark it and it proved difficult to search. Floating metal will bind in space, and it is one thing NASA has to deal with in extravehicular space repairs.

One may find it a bit fascinating that a human exposed to outer space can be revived back to life relatively unharmed after about 90 seconds of exposure, maybe due to the 'mammalian' reflex of survival of the body to preserve the vital organs at all cost, the brain. Here's what takes place, you don't explode in the pressure change.

When the human body is suddenly exposed to the vacuum of space, a number of injuries begin to occur immediately. Though they are relatively minor at first, they accumulate rapidly into a life-threatening combination. The first effect is the expansion of gases within the lungs and digestive tract due to the reduction of external pressure. A victim of explosive decompression greatly increases their chances of survival simply by exhaling within the first few seconds, otherwise death is likely to occur once the lungs rupture and spill bubbles of air into the circulatory system. Such a life-saving exhalation might be due to a shout of surprise, though it would naturally go unheard where there is no air to carry it.

In the absence of atmospheric pressure water will spontaneously convert into vapor, which would cause the moisture in a victim’s mouth and eyes to quickly boil away. The same effect would cause water in the muscles and soft tissues of the body to evaporate, prompting some parts of the body to swell to twice their usual size after a few moments. This bloating may result in some superficial bruising due to broken capillaries, but it would not be sufficient to break the skin.

Within seconds the reduced pressure would cause the nitrogen which is dissolved in the blood to form gaseous bubbles, a painful condition known to divers as “the bends.” Direct exposure to the sun’s ultraviolet radiation would also cause a severe sunburn to any unprotected skin. Heat does not transfer out of the body very rapidly in the absence of a medium such as air or water, so freezing to death is not an immediate risk in outer space despite the extreme cold.

For about ten full seconds –a long time to be loitering in space without protection– an average human would be rather uncomfortable, but they would still have their wits about them. Depending on the nature of the decompression, this may give a victim sufficient time to take measures to save their own life. But this period of “useful consciousness” would wane as the effects of brain asphyxiation begin to set in. In the absence of air pressure the gas exchange of the lungs works in reverse, dumping oxygen out of the blood and accelerating the oxygen-starved state known as hypoxia. After about ten seconds a victim will experience loss of vision and impaired judgement, and the cooling effect of evaporation will lower the temperature in the victim’s mouth and nose to near-freezing. Unconsciousness and convulsions would follow several seconds later, and a blue discoloration of the skin called cyanosis would become evident.

At this point the victim would be floating in a blue, bloated, unresponsive stupor, but their brain would remain undamaged and their heart would continue to beat. If pressurized oxygen is administered within about one and a half minutes, a person in such a state is likely make a complete recovery with only minor injuries, though the hypoxia-induced blindness may not pass for some time. Without intervention in those first ninety seconds, the blood pressure would fall sufficiently that the blood itself would begin to boil, and the heart would stop beating. There are no recorded instances of successful resuscitation beyond that threshold.

Though an unprotected human would not long survive in the clutches of outer space, it is remarkable that survival times can be measured in minutes rather than seconds, and that one could endure such an inhospitable environment for almost two minutes without suffering any irreversible damage. The human body is indeed a resilient machine.

Resilient to a degree, but we are no Tardigrades, the nicknames 'water bears' not only survived long exposure in space but also reentry into earth's atmosphere to live/revived, for several weeks. Google those critters for the documented story.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder
I wonder how long a human corpse and craft will survive in space intact, 1000's of years to be found by future humans or aliens?


If they find the dog and the chimps too they'll be wondering how many space faring civilisations there are!



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:08 AM
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Here is something to add to the mystery file on our space history...after the first manned mission to the moon the returned lunar samples were tested and found not to be radioactive beyond normal background levels.

Small amounts of the lunar material was pulverized and placed in solution with water and both plants and animals were exposed to and or injected with this lunar soup.

In respect to the plants...two plots were planted with corn and bean seeds and watered with this solution, the result was accelerated growth, genetic deformities and cancerous growths.

At the time this was well publicized and NASA distributed pictures of the affected plants...yet today all reference to the genetic deformities and cancerous growths has been deleted by NASA and they claim no ill effects of any kind occurred.

What makes this interesting is the fact that the astronauts experienced direct contact with the lunar material when they removed their lunar space gear but not one of them developed as much as a cough.

So the question is...what was really going on.

Keeping mind that they also broke protocol when they splashed down and prematurely opened the hatch prior to being quarantined. Our brave astronauts were afraid they might drown as they had no way to communicate with the navy which happened to be close at hand. Did they know there was no risk of contamination because they were never on the moon or did they simply disobey orders?

Something stinks because I saw those test results and when the beans are growing on the outside of the pods you know something is wrong and the corn was completely distorted out of shape while the cancerous growths were obvious. Why the cover up?
edit on 1-8-2011 by wdavidb because: (no reason given)



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