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Originally posted by Tephra
This defeatist logic proves to be even more fatal. Any weapon is better than no weapon. I think you are greatly overestimating the willingness of the military as a whole to engage U.S. Citizens. Regardless, any rifle is effective enough if used properly.
Originally posted by Screwed
Spoken like a true victim.
Tell ya what sweetheart ,You just sit tight and let the Men do the fighting.
Not everyone has a victim mentality.
Maybe you can help feed us after a hard day of battle....if we're still alive.
Just throwin out ideas.
Just to use an already overly used phrase,
I'd rather die standin
than live on my knees.edit on 18-2-2011 by Screwed because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by randomname
the american citizens are vastly, vastly undergunned to defend it's self against the u.s. military.
Originally posted by Aliensdoexist
Any kind will do i guess, you'd probably die and I would too along with millions of others but I'll be damned sure that I'd be taking one or two of them with me to meet our maker.
I hope none of this ever happens in America but if it ever were to happen unarmed citizens will be looking to armed citizens for support and safety and to try and put a stop to the madness.
Although having a whole brute force onslaught in a country the size and the #'s of people in America it would be impossible to sustain for a prolonged invasion because the logistics involved would be mind boggling.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Did the davidians make the US turn and run, tail tucked between its legs...
or...
did ramping up military force result in a lot of innocent dead people?
Just trying to be realistic. How do people propose the typical American be as armed as the military?
Originally posted by SparkyP
reply to post by Screwed
You and your vigilante buddies are stood together protecting what you value or think is important and you have fought off the invading armies, the back slaps and pride are in abundance. Then the whistle is audible, it becomes a roar and it is overheard you look up, then you realise that the battle was won but now the war is lost as the bomb hits home and everything/one you loved is nothing and never was.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by Aliensdoexist
Any kind will do i guess, you'd probably die and I would too along with millions of others but I'll be damned sure that I'd be taking one or two of them with me to meet our maker.
Your response makes no sense at all. I see a lot of goal post shifting being done in order to mischaracterize what I actually ASKED. Why is it so hard to have a discussion on the actual grounds of what is being said?
I asked what gund I would need to DEFEAT the invading army. I did not ask what guns would be best for taking someone with me. Those are two completely different ideas. How can you say "any kind will do" in the same sentence you state that the goal of DEFEATING them will not be met?
I hope none of this ever happens in America but if it ever were to happen unarmed citizens will be looking to armed citizens for support and safety and to try and put a stop to the madness.
I guess I have a very different view of the world based on what it ACTUALLY is. It just seems better to actively work to maintain a good society than to sit around polishing my guns, waiting for it all to go to hell.
Although having a whole brute force onslaught in a country the size and the #'s of people in America it would be impossible to sustain for a prolonged invasion because the logistics involved would be mind boggling.
I think you greatly underestimate the power had by the people that control every infrastructure within the country. Without fuel, elecricity, clean water, etc...the fat, stupid, Real Housewives of whatever watching American is going to wither and die before a shot needs to be fired.
I am not going to sit in my mountain shack, sharpening knives in the hopes that one day I can take out at least ONE soldier in an attempt to protect on average people such as in this thread that have told me that as a woman, I should sit back and cook.
Instead I will get off my keyboard from time to time and take a part in the society I live in now and take an active role in shaping the future for generations of Americans yet to come. Hopefully someday that will result in fewer sexist computer mercenaries taking a bold stand against imaginary enemies and lead to productive and intelligent populations living in notice of the majority they share, not the minutia that divides.edit on 18-2-2011 by Sinnthia because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Screwed
reply to post by Sinnthia
Victims can NOT and NEVER will understand the mindset of a warrior.
Warriors can NOT and NEVER will understand the mindset of a victim.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
I am afraid this "perfect" example is a tad less than perfect.
Maybe I am missing something very basic here but I am sure someone can help me out here. If the US government decided to roll the military of planes, ships, armored vehicles, teams of foreign born mercenaries, high tech weapons, body armor, control of the power grid, gas, water, etc into my neighborhood. Exactly what guns do you suggest me and my neighbors keep on hand to defeat the US military on its on turf with? I will start buying them right now.
Originally posted by iamaperson
Originally posted by Screwed
reply to post by Sinnthia
Victims can NOT and NEVER will understand the mindset of a warrior.
Warriors can NOT and NEVER will understand the mindset of a victim.
I highly doubt that any regular person will stand a chance against the military