I am by no way an computer expert or even remotely able to understand networking and security on pc's.
However even from some of the seemingly very intelligent and knowledgeable replies on this thread, I am surprised at to be honest the complete
confidence in some systems some show.
One thing from my limited understanding is clear, unless you are driving around using a laptop and a wireless card bought with cash, from a place with
no CCTV, have a computer bought in the same way with NO access on that computer ever to any of you private email accounts im's etc and only used for
And only then using some of the systems described here could offer a relative amount of instant and certainly untraceable info about who the "user"
Unless done as above if any of the "Theys" or "Thems" wanted to find out who you were they would.
Otherwise even using these systems, usually a user is at home has an actual account with name address payments ect to there broadband, telephony
provider, if u use Tor or any other system you have to initially go through your ISP.
This simple fact makes the stance and acceptance of working with any of the "they's" or "them's" by the ISP the only thing between any user and
what info is gained or acted on by according to what or where you do things on the net.
I really am not interested in any long lengthened posts on internet protocols packets encryption etc being important, if the ISP is compromised or
monitoring/sharing its all a moot point. Now this may seem like arrogance or unqualified confidence on my part saying this as already showing an very
open and obvious lack of tech knowledge. You are wrong.
Why so then?
Even though any thing on the "Surface" of internet security, experts, developments and knowledge some of which mentioned and showed in this thread
may seem cutting edge and the "Known Known's", just like the most recent developments in civil aviation is very impressive, we ALL know there are
bases in deserts in the world now flying stuff that wont be seen for at least 30 years in the "surface" world.
And will still then be seen as "cutting edge" and new exciting.
Why there is this seeming arrogance on the net by even very very intelligent people and experts, in this matter baffles me, sure TOR and such like may
make it able to keep your illegal activities or sick pic looking from local and national law enforcement agencies, commercial spying etc etc..... but
that is just the "surface" of monitoring.
The true "Deep Web" has not even been mentioned yet.
If anyone at all believes the following place, and also one in Australia and Canada/USA, does not actively and easily stick their tentacles right up
your fibre optic or telephone line, or waft through the air and could even look at you through your web cam if it was on whilst "playing" online, no
matter what security level you think you are at, well all I can say is grow up, and imagine what the net will be like in 30 years, because that's
more than likely whats going on in these places right NOW.
I can garuntee all the posts and responses on this thread were filtered through it, and another bit of a social profile and info was linked to an id
you will have there, if a friend also posted on this thread the line that connects you and everyone else you have contacted or met will show another
link or get stronger, every email, every IM every phone call, every text tweet and exposure on webcam day by day 24/7 that profile is building.
Wake Up and I normally hate those who say this but really please do.
I wont post link after link, ive put much on this over the years on ATS especially when people come on to ATS and say my "phone is tapped" well wake
up again everyone's is, when you know its tapped its done by local or federal it wakes you up to that, but from the day you first put it on you were
by the true "deep web".
Do some searches Echelon is true, also as ive already posted on ATS do a search, the EU is rolling out an programme NOW OPENLY that intends to infect
every PC in the world with a hidden cookie/virus whatever that will monitor and report all key strokes, sites visited etc.
This will be in place within the next few years.
However the guys whove been watching you since you bought your first cell:
Menwith Hill Echelon
Menwith Hill Menwith Hill, near Harrogate North Yorkshire, is run by the US National Security Agency (NSA), operates outside US law and is not
accountable in British law. It is part of a global network of bases used to spy on all forms of international telecommunications - including private
phone calls, emails and faxes - and is crucial for the intelligence-gathering necessary for any US-led military attack. In 2007, one day before
Parliamentary Summer recess Prime Minister Gordon Brown announced that Menwith Hill would be included in the US Missile Defence system with no
democratic debate, consultation or accountability. * It is the most secret US base in Britain * It is unaccountable, unlawful and undemocratic * It
is integral to US plans to fight in and through space * It is the world's largest spy base and is still growing The Menwith Hill spy base, near
Harrogate, North Yorkshire, is run by the National Security Agency (NSA) of the United States. Although in 1996 it became officially known as RAF
Menwith Hill, most of the 1800 personnel on the base are American. The NSA was set up by a Presidential decree in 1952 without any debate in the US
Congress. The American people know very little about the NSA and even less about Menwith
They could close down the entire worldwide child porn network in just a couple of days of 100% focused and intent to do so, makes you think eh.
There ARE NO MORE SECRETS in the world of internet data Telephony to these guys, none at all.