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NORTH AMERICA - Greedy Tyrant and destroyer of Freedom -

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posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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S&F
I simply never knew this of South America that they had such strong ties.
This is an awesome thing, i wish well for them.
Excellent documentary, definately worth the time even with having to read the subtitles.
You Rock.




posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by Doomzilla
 


S&F
I simply never knew this of South America that they had such strong ties.
This is an awesome thing, i wish well for them.
Excellent documentary, definately worth the time even with having to read the subtitles.
You Rock.


Im glad it was an eye opener my friend .
As the video says , big changes have happened there ... They have presidents from all walks of life ,, women , steelworker, priest , soldier .

You saw how the western media have outright lied about Chavez and Evo Morales.?
Why do they lie? Because The leaders of the countries in the video Refuse to be held hostage by OPEC and the IMF , they are a threat to imperialism . and a threat to the nwo .

You saw how the IMF said to the Brazilian President when he was going to pay half the debt "not to worry, let it roll over "

Says it all really !

I don't rock , the leaders in the video do and so do you for watching it .
Thanks friend !




posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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First off, do you have any clue about where ATS started? Take a wild guess........Do you have any idea where and how the internet got started? Take another wild guess.........

Id say to you, do some research........

As for me , ive been to about 10 different countries throughout my life........I think I may have a fair amount of traveling in my bones.........



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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First off, do you have any clue about where ATS started? Take a wild guess........Do you have any idea where and how the internet got started? Take another wild guess.........

Id say to you, do some research........

As for me , ive been to about 10 different countries throughout my life........I think I may have a fair amount of traveling in my bones.........



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Hey Ats is owned by Brit Simon Gray .
The internet you could argue was a brits idea .
Anyway , irrelevant .

The western world is getting left behind , revolution is happening everywhere ,when is it our turn ?



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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I disagree, and think you're both naive and uninformed.

America has plenty of enemies that aren't sitting on large oil reserves. Most Southern Hemisphere nations are enemies not because of oil, but because they had thriving Democracies and were a threat to the American way, or what the rulers decided was the American way.

So while oil plays a huge part, it's incorrect to imply it's the only reason.



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by rakkasansct
Yea chavez sure is a real leader.. Just don't speak out against him or his government..

edition.cnn.com...

edition.cnn.com...

edition.cnn.com...

edition.cnn.com...


These are all articles about Chavez and the government trying to intimidate the media. Surely if he was such a great leader, he would welcome a media with a different point of view?


The media in Venezuela is overwhelmingly anti-Chavez. Venemously. The media in Venezuela cannot be imagined in the West. It simply doesn't happen. Infact, I'm glad you brought that up. While you think it shows Venezuela and Chavez in a poor light, it actually confirms Venezuela has arguebly the most free media in the world. Which has been abused by enemies of the state. Anti-Establishment media in America or Britain is unimaginable. And you know it.

Chavez only shut down media outlets which supported the attempted illegal coup against him. If there were an attempted military uprising against the civilian US Government tomorrow, and CNN told people to get their guns and join it, would you expect the US government to just let it go? Absolutely not. The media has social responsibility, which includes not endorsing violent oppression of legitimate democratic processes.

Also these media networks in question are overwhelmingly hated by the people of Venezuela. But still, he allows them to speak out against him. And they speak out against him, his government and Democracy on a daily basis.

Your post highlights a complete lack of understanding of domestic Venezuelan issues, especially regarding media freedom and positions.



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
All posted in a venue made possible by our American Freedom.......

Made by Americans.........

Funny how that glaringly stands out while people bash America on forums made possible by us....


That's a pretty poor argument. For a start it's wrong. This venue wasn't made possible by America. And even if it was, it wouldn't be because of American Freedom, but American technology. Plus it'd be a historically dated argument.

Lets look at right now though; America is in the process of creating a war against cyber-terrorism. They now want to shut down and limit internet Freedom. Yay, American Freedom.

It's such a ridiculous argument. Can I not discuss Scottish foreign-policy or politics while on the telephone, because my provider and the 'inventor' are both of Scottish heritage? If I put that argument to someone, they'd laugh in my face!! Because it's retarded, as is your reasoning.

But hey, your country invented the internet, so who am I to put forward valid criticism and observations



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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In part 3 he rides a bmx bike and breaks the frame... that's awesome.

One memorable quote (I'm still in part 3) :

"When I came to power, we had to import all our corn.
Now that is not necessary. We broke production records last year (as they're flying over crop fields)

Now we're building processing plants. This is where [they say] we're building the Iranian atomic bomb. Their corn bomb. (laughter)

We process our own corn, in our own plant. We make the flour, in this case with the help of Iran, and we sell it very cheaply to the people."


I've posted the links to this on 2 other forums so far, it's shaping up to be a really good movie.



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 06:01 AM
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hi friend , great documentary imo
South america is a beautiful place and im proud of the progress they have made in the last 6 years.
I salute Oliver Stone for his work hes brought to my attention that there are real leaders out there still who put the people first. Peace to you bro.



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Doomzilla
reply to post by alaskan
 

hi friend , great documentary imo
South america is a beautiful place and im proud of the progress they have made in the last 6 years.
I salute Oliver Stone for his work hes brought to my attention that there are real leaders out there still who put the people first. Peace to you bro.


Search for 'The War on Democracy' by John Pilger. That's a great Documentary on Venezuela and South America. It's better imo

The War on Democracy is a 2007 award-winning documentary film directed by Christopher Martin and John Pilger.[1] Focusing on the political state of Latin America, the film is a rebuke of both the United States' intervention in foreign countries' domestic politics, and its "War on Terrorism". The film was first released in the United Kingdom on June 15, 2007.

Here it is in 1 single video




posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Nice one mate I'l watch that in a bit .

Thanks



posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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No worries mate. Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking? Notice you have an NOI sig and av, but using "commonwealth"(British) slang. A bit unusual and different. Can't say I've met a 5 percenter who wasn't Black-American



posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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Hi mate before it even started the founder was preaching to blacks whites and brown youth about living a righteous life and becoming gods .
Note I'm talking about nation of gods and earths not the nation of islam .
Ive been into wu tang since 93 and they use NGE concepts in their songs .
Ive never looked into it til recently because I thought it was like a black only movement but after reading about the founder and checking the official website - iit made me want to learn more .

A lot of what it teaches appeals to me .

"Clarence hit the streets of Harlem to teach others his views based on his interpretation of NOI teachings. After failing to reach elder adults whom he saw as already set in their ways, he found success with the disenfranchised street youth which, unlike the NOI, included whites and Latinos.[3][4][5][6][7][8]This young group formed the "first 9 born" of what officially became the 5% Nation on October 10, 1964."


Note my birthday is October 10 th lol
Anyway am I a 5%er ? Not for me to say but all I'm doing is trying to spread the powerful and positive message it teaches .
I think my signature says it all.

Peace



posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 05:38 PM
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Well I can't say I've give it much thought, but my favourite rap group is headed by a white guy(Italian) who is also a 5 percenter.

Jedi Mind Tricks. Some of there lyrics are pretty homophobic(he's a horrorcore rapper, so shock and awe is part of the promotion), but he's a talented guy. I imagine alot of his lyrical content would appeal to you. With him being a Western guy in the NOI, and holding similar political views to yourself. Aswell as being a self-confessed conspiracist.

I wouldn't mention him if not for the fact the thread seems to have died and you brought up the Wu. And I'm an absolute groupie. Hell, my ATS name is stolen from one of their song titles.
He has a song with Killah Priest, actually.





The first song is from Violent by Design, when he was young and taking alot of drugs and more into conspiracies. The second song is more horrorcore(which is kind of a newish genre in hip hop), but he's gotten more religious through his career. Oddly enough

If I'm honest I couldn't care much for religion in general, even though some religions have a social appeal to me. Without anything in the way of evidence I can't entertain them. Just thought it was a bit different to here something saying 'mate' and prescribing to those religious views. You never anwsered the question I was trying to get at, actually... Where are you from? Mate could be British, Australian, Kiwi, South African, at a stretch Canadian etc



posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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Lol sorry , Northern England here .
Yeah I know jedi mind tricks good group - You mention horrorcore - what about the rzas the gravediggaz classic 1st album .
I thought your name was because your connected to spain or something ? I am . Mothers spanish .

You won't find a bigger wu head than me , I got the symbol for my 1st tatoo , lol .

5 percenters isn't a religion mate , like hip hop its a way of life .
Check this all these rappers are supposed to be 5 % ers and they just so happen to be most of my favourites ..lol
en.wikipedia.org...:Members_of_the_Nation_of_Gods_and_Earths


You need to check Warcloud/holocaust sick !
www.youtube.com...
Hes the 1st mc the 2nd is wack .
Peace

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posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by Doomzilla
Every enemy of North America has 1 thing in common - OIL .

Your media and government are promoting wars and coups that are based on -
LIES - GREED- DEPOPULATION .

South America is wise to their tricks -
Now its time for the Honest - good- moral - hard working Americans to know the truth as well.

I found this video enlightening and informative . The lies your media have spread the outrageous unfounded propaganda has to stop now. Please watch and learn . The western leaders are an embarassment . We need leaders who put the PEOPLE first .

www.youtube.com...

Note video is in 6 parts , if any can post better quality link , id appreciate it .

PEACE

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How do you explain all the foreigners at Bilderberg meetings? The US is not in this alone. Greedy bankers, Princes, Queens, even Bill Gates attend these things. Bill Gates is member of the Club of Rome. You need to dig deeper my friend.

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posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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Hi there im assuming this is your quote .

How do you explain all the foreigners at Bilderberg meetings? The US is not in this alone. Greedy bankers, Princes, Queens, even Bill Gates attend these things. Bill Gates is member of the Club of Rome. You need to dig deeper my friend.


Oh yeah your right there ,
Let me just explain , I gave the thread this title to try and intice Americans in to watch the video .
If id titled it with something about Chavez id either get haters or noone in the thread .

However your totally correct about Usa

The biggest players in this nwo are - The Rothschilds, Royal Family and Rockerfellers

Peace



posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by Doomzilla
reply to post by Iamschist
 


Im talking about present day and the issues in the video , have you watched it ?
I also mentioned greed and depopulation .
If youre going to tell me that War is for the benefit of the average man , then im afraid you have no chance .

You can be spoonfed truth by the media or you can watch this alternate video by someone who actually bothered to find the truth himself .
Chavez is the a leader who opposes the nwo thats why im researching him .

PEACE


Omg I cant believe you think Chavez opposes the NWO! lolololol you gotta be kiddin me. Hes a frikken World Socialist. Are you a Socialist? A paid Soros Operative? OBamascammer?



posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by NadaCambia

Originally posted by rakkasansct
Yea chavez sure is a real leader.. Just don't speak out against him or his government..

edition.cnn.com...

edition.cnn.com...

edition.cnn.com...

edition.cnn.com...


These are all articles about Chavez and the government trying to intimidate the media. Surely if he was such a great leader, he would welcome a media with a different point of view?


The media in Venezuela is overwhelmingly anti-Chavez. Venemously. The media in Venezuela cannot be imagined in the West. It simply doesn't happen. Infact, I'm glad you brought that up. While you think it shows Venezuela and Chavez in a poor light, it actually confirms Venezuela has arguebly the most free media in the world. Which has been abused by enemies of the state. Anti-Establishment media in America or Britain is unimaginable. And you know it.

Chavez only shut down media outlets which supported the attempted illegal coup against him. If there were an attempted military uprising against the civilian US Government tomorrow, and CNN told people to get their guns and join it, would you expect the US government to just let it go? Absolutely not. The media has social responsibility, which includes not endorsing violent oppression of legitimate democratic processes.

Also these media networks in question are overwhelmingly hated by the people of Venezuela. But still, he allows them to speak out against him. And they speak out against him, his government and Democracy on a daily basis.

Your post highlights a complete lack of understanding of domestic Venezuelan issues, especially regarding media freedom and positions.


Oh yah, who else shut down the media when people were revolting? Ahmedinajad, Mubarak, Algerian guy...Need I say more?



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