reply to post by Blaine91555
Originally posted by thorfourwinds
Time is getting short.
Greetings Earthlings, Assorted Guests and member Blaine91555:
Thank you for your time and consideration of the message.
While I can appreciate your hoity-toity attitude
apparently brought on by the exhuberance of
finally being set free by the truth contained in the message
, I trust you
are not merely toying with the messenger (which would make one suspect of your
motivations). Are you admittedly here in this reality a
blatherskite assigned to waste bandwidth and
Psychological Warfare From the Outside: The FBI and police used a myriad of other "dirty tricks" to undermine progressive movements. They planted
false media stories and published bogus leaflets and other publications in the name of targeted groups. They forged correspondence, sent anonymous
letters, and made anonymous telephone calls. They spread misinformation about meetings and events, set up pseudo movement groups run by government
agents, and manipulated or strong-armed parents, employers, landlords, school officials and others to cause trouble for activists.
Please do not further waste any more time by attempting to shoot the messenger. So be it, because, as you noticed,
Is Short!" (If you have a differing opinion - wonderful! Prove your hypothesis or at least
provide some sort of supporting evidence to back your play so the rest of us can see where you get your ideas. We welcome all positive input. As so
aptly stated one of the most popular and vociferous advocate-for-the-truth OP's: "Truth isn't found, its realized!"
In general, governments routinely rely on hoaxes to sell their agendas to an otherwise reluctant public. Our government too uses hoaxes to create the
illusion that We The People have no choice but the direction the government wishes us to go in.
Interesting to see the in your face, needless FEAR MONGERING in your response to Phage. How very UNscientific of you
At this precise moment in the spacetime
continuum, the message is so important and timely that it
must be presented in a bold, direct, and often aggressive way, but certainly not intentionally coming across as being confrontational. Again, please
concentrate on the material, as the messenger is merely a conduit.
Two-dimensional analogy of space–time distortion. Matter changes the geometry of spacetime, this (curved) geometry being interpreted as
gravity. White lines do not represent the curvature of space but instead represent the coordinate system imposed on the curved spacetime, which would
be rectilinear in a flat spacetime.
Please do not get preoccupied in your interpretation of how the material was presented. Your interpretation of FEAR MONGERING is subjective, at best.
"monger---a person who attempts to stir up or spread something that is usually petty or discreditable —usually used in combination, as in
How about "fishmonger" - sushi
I do find the use of "Shock and Awe" by placing a picture of the very normal lightning above a Volcanic eruption...interesting.
Really? How interesting? In what way? And here I thought I was being somewhat creative by "the use of "Shock and Awe" by placing a picture of the
very normal lightning above a Volcanic eruption
..." (your words) photo as a metaphor
for the grave danger of the catastrophic damage posed by electromagnetic radiation storms to the infrastructure, as I did not readily have a photo
depicting such damage.
How about this one?
Communcations equipment is another story altogether and better understanding the nature of the electrodynamic coupling, how geospace responds to
external and internal drivers, and how the coupled middle and upper atmosphere respond to external forcings and how they interact with each other just
might give us a leg up on this.
My personal concern regards the equipment, much of it out-moded by lack of funds to update. I personally was in Bay St. Louis in Mississippi (Katrina)
to assist in water rescue of our brothers who were almost drowned like rats when the storm surge completely wiped out the Command Center - which was
elevated to survive such an event. Unfortunately, most of the communications equipment ended upside down in 30 feet of nasty water - over 1/2 mile
inland from the landfall beachfront. A space-based EMP or similar electromagnetic radiation event might not cause the physical damage, but the
cumulative effects would be catastrophic.
MONDAY, JULY 26, 2010
NASA Braces For Solar Disruptions
Since we know huge solar flares have affected the earth in the recent past, it is a fair assumption that one or more will affect us again sometime in
This isn’t science fiction. Although no one knows when the next major solar flare will head in our direction.
The largest storm observed since the invention of the modern astronomy was in 1859 – now known as the Carrington Event.
Just before dawn the next day, skies all over planet Earth erupted in red, green, and purple auroras so brilliant that newspapers could be read as
easily as in daylight. Indeed, stunning auroras pulsated even at near tropical latitudes over Cuba, the Bahamas, Jamaica, El Salvador, and Hawaii.
Even more disconcerting, telegraph systems worldwide went haywire. Spark discharges shocked telegraph operators and set the telegraph paper on fire.
Even when telegraphers disconnected the batteries powering the lines, aurora-induced electric currents in the wires still allowed messages to be
"What Carrington saw was a white-light solar flare—a magnetic explosion on the sun," explains David Hathaway, solar physics team lead at NASA's
Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama.
Now we know that solar flares happen frequently, especially during solar sunspot maximum. Most betray their existence by releasing X-rays (recorded by
X-ray telescopes in space) and radio noise (recorded by radio telescopes in space and on Earth). In Carrington's day, however, there were no X-ray
satellites or radio telescopes. No one knew flares existed until that September morning when one super-flare produced enough light to rival the
brightness of the sun itself.
Another tremendous flare lashed out at our planet in 1921.
Both of these events occurred before we developed an infrastructure highly dependent upon sensitive (and highly vulnerable) electronics.
Smaller, but disruptive solar storms have caused serious power outages and communications disruptions in recent decades.
In 2009 the National Academy of Sciences produced a 134 page report on the potential damage that another major solar flare could cause in Severe Space
Weather Events—Understanding Societal and Economic Impacts.
tout au contraire, mon frere
...while talking about a totally unrelated, oft occurring event,...
The magnetosphere is that area of space, around a planet, that is controlled by the planet's magnetic field. The shape of the Earth's magnetosphere is
the direct result of being blasted by solar wind. It prevents most of the particles from the Sun, carried in the solar wind, from hitting the
Solar storms can cause colorful auroras, often seen in higher latitudes on Earth.
After more than two years of very low sunspot activity and hardly any flares, the sun is ramping up activity now.
The sun's activity ebbs and flows on a roughly 11-year cycle. It can range from very quiet to violent space storms that knock out power grids on Earth
and disrupt radio and satellite communications. The last peak was in 2000, and scientists have in recent months figured the low point was occurring.
Fresh sunspots during October suggest the corner has been turned.
"I think solar minimum is behind us," said David Hathaway of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. "Last month we counted five
sunspot groups." he says.
A new study from the National Academy of Sciences outlines grim possibilities on Earth for a worst-case scenario solar storm.
Damage to power grids and other communications systems could be catastrophic, the scientists conclude, with effects leading to a potential loss of
governmental control of the situation.
Read more: www.foxnews.com...
When the sun is in the active phase of its 11-year cycle, it can unleash powerful magnetic storms that disable satellites, threaten astronaut
safety, and even disrupt communication systems on Earth.
The worst storms can knock out power grids by inducing currents that melt transformers.
Modern power grids are so interconnected that a big space storm — the type expected to occur about once a century — could cause a cascade of
failures that would sweep across the United States, cutting power to 130 million people or more in this country alone, the new report concludes.
Such widespread power outages, though expected to be a rare possibility, would affect other vital systems.
"Impacts would be felt on interdependent infrastructures with, for example, potable water distribution affected within several hours; perishable foods
and medications lost in 12-24 hours; immediate or eventual loss of heating/air conditioning, sewage disposal, phone service, transportation, fuel
resupply and so on," the report states.
Outages could take months to fix, the researchers say. Banks might close, and trade with other countries might halt.
"Emergency services would be strained, and command and control might be lost," write the researchers, led by Daniel Baker, director of the Laboratory
for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado in Boulder.
"Whether it is terrestrial catastrophes or extreme space weather incidents, the results can be devastating to modern societies that depend in a myriad
of ways on advanced technological systems," Baker said in a statement released with the report.
"A catastrophic failure of commercial and government infrastructure in space and on the ground can be mitigated through raising public awareness,
improving vulnerable infrastructure and developing advanced forecasting capabilities," the report states. "Without preventive actions or plans, the
trend of increased dependency on modern space-weather sensitive assets could make society more vulnerable in the future."
Preventive action, now you're talking. Tin foil hats
...just for the sake of sending a chill up and down the spines of unsuspecting readers interesting. Even that was not enough and you opted to
add another horror story to stir things up in the form of the potential for an Asteroid From Hell (exaggeration intentional).
Double OOPS! I had no idea of the delicate nature of your fellow ATS members. So, there are unsuspecting readers here on ATS that have made a
conscious decision to deny ignorance by signing up, went to this thread and feel they got snookered? List please. Chill, dude! At least, I hope I got
their attention. As far as the "Astroid from Hell," (your words, not mine), I'll cover that in another post, as I want to keep your attention while I
seem to have it.
Those would be my thoughts. I think the fear mongering is out of control and I'm suspect of the motivations behind it. You asked?
What is your solution if I might ask. Should we relocate? Or is creating fear your only goal?
"Time is getting short", perhaps, but it's far more likely true that an extinction event is millions of years away. But lets not let facts interfere
with all the fun of scaring people.
I respect your right to have an opinion.
In Peace & Light
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