Originally posted by King Seesar
reply to post by Lucifer777
Also by the way you say were colonists well if it wasen't for us colonists you would be speaking German right now saying hail Hitler....
“After World War 1, Germany fell into the hands of the German International Bankers. Those bankers bought her and now they own her, lock, stock, and
barrel. They have purchased her industries, they have mortgages on her soil, they control her production, they control all her public utilities.
The international German bankers have subsidized the present Government of Germany and they have also supplied every dollar of the money Adolf Hitler
has used in his lavish campaign to build up a threat to the government of Bruening. When Bruening fails to obey the orders of the German International
Bankers, Hitler is brought forth to scare the Germans into submission...
Through the Federal Reserve Board over 30 billion of dollars of American money...has been pumped into Germany...You have all heard of the spending
that has taken place in Germany...modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her
All this was done on our money. All this was given to Germany through the Federal Reserve Board.
The Federal Reserve Board...has pumped so many billions of dollars into Germany that they dare not name the total.”
US Congressman Louis T. McFadden
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(Antony Sutton's "Wall Street and the Rise of
The nationalistic perspective on WW2 is a rather crude propaganda perspective which has been drummed into every American and which portrays the
Americans as the heroic saviours of Europe. It would unfair to say that "the Americans" financed the Nazis, since most Americans were and still are
unaware of this, however certainly Nazi Germany would never have existed were it not for the financing of major European and American Capitalists,
however since most Americans were then, and still are today, ideologically Capitalist, and equate socialism and state capitalism with Satanism, there
is certainly a collective guilt.
This is the kind of problem which will continue to occur as long as small cabals (gangs) of Anarchic (in the worst possible sense of the term)
billionaire Capitalists can manipulate entire populations, and impoverish or enrich governments according to their whims. As long as State Capitalism
is demonised as "Communist," "Satanic," and "ungodly," such "Men of God (i.e., god of Capitalism)," who are essentially Capitalist Devils will
continue to rule the world, until the age when they are forever eradicated from the face of the earth.
I agree with parts of your post i do think there is a secret society within a secret society when it comes to masons but i don't think every
mason is part of the power that be's plot, sure some are, they have these type of Illuminati/TPTB agents all over and i bet these ones do what you
say but not every mason....
The "International Dictatorship of Capitalism," which is a very real economic dictatorship appears to represent the anti-thesis (the opposite idea) of
the ideals of the 19th century Illuminists, however, with regards to Masonry and and "TPTB (The Powers That Be)" it is certainly the case that many
Freemasons are very much a part of the Capitalist economic establishment, and in the UK, they essentially "are" the economic establishment and
dominate the financial industry and the City of London.
There certainly is an "Esoteric / Illuminist / Luciferian Agenda," but this is essentially a benevolent agenda; the current world with it's nation
states, religions and economic elites would have to be swept away to bring this about, however Freemasons tend to be a conservative, malevolent force
in our world who seem to be generally motivated by their own economic interests, and not in the economic salvation of humankind; their agenda is
primarily economic, not esoteric, for in esoteric matters they are generally quite ignorant; the esoteric rituals of these "Men of God" in silly hats,
aprons and uniforms are simply a form of pantomime buffonery, which tends to produce a pompous, arrogant, mind controlled priest of the Capitalist
aristocracy, convinced that he is a knight on a sacred and holy mission for God.
There are of course different types of Freemasonry and almost all Neopagan groups are built on a similar substructure of esoteric knowledge, so I
would not wish to tar all esoteric societies with the same brush; I am essentially referring to "regular" Freemasons as the malevolent force in all
On war against God: the enemy of humankind"
Originally posted by Tamahu
reply to post by Lucifer777
I'm certainly not one to defend the direction that contemporary Freemasonry has gone and is going. I've often said how I agree with Cagliostro's, H.P.
Blavatsky's, and Samael Aun Weor's stating and/or implying that worldwide Masonry should unanimously include Women in their lodges (See:
Strict celibacy (not to be confused with Chastity) is also a very harmful practice in most cases.
(And homosexuality is always a very harmful practice).
Both celibacy "and" chastity are "sins of restriction" and blasphemous violations of the Law.
Essentially a "chaste" woman is a slave to her master; she is owned and possessed. The religions of the old Aeon have essentially turned human nature
and morality on it's head; human freedom has been considered "sinful," and the laws of the slavemaster have been considered "good," "godly," "sacred,"
"holy," "spiritual" and "pure." Whenever a religionist uses such adjectives, they are almost always the most filthy and venemous lies. That which is
natural has come to be considered evil, and all that is unnatural, and which enslaves and confines human nature has come to be considered as "good."
It is upon this deception that all that is evil in religion rests.
With regards to the statement "homosexuality is always a very harmful practice,
this is the kind of utterance is typical of the "godly" person;
and by "godly person" I mean the utterly subhuman, malevolent and psychopathic person who is the greatest enemy of the gods of nature (i.e., human
beings) and of Mother Nature Herself; it is this "man of god" who through the ages has been responsible for the speading of the memetic virus of slave
religion, all the while thinking himself pure and virtuous and above all nature; it is such men of god who are themselves a deadly plague upon the
world, and who in time will have to be cut out of the world; their extermination is essential for the salvation of humankind.
....., "the animal kingdom [does] it with much greater sexual diversity — including homosexual, bisexual and nonreproductive sex — than the
scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept." Current research indicates that various forms of same-sex sexual
behavior are found throughout the animal kingdom. A new review made in 2009 of existing research showed that same-sex behavior is a nearly universal
phenomenon in the animal kingdom, common across species. Homosexuality is best known from social species.
The observation of homosexual behavior in animals can be seen as both an argument for and against the acceptance of homosexuality in humans, and has
been used especially against the claim that it is a peccatum contra naturam ('sin against nature').
It is clear that, in common with the animal kingdom, that human beings are a bisexual species. To produce an obedient slave, the man of god (the
slavemaster) must attempt to restrict the slaves from loving and being too affectionate with each other; thus the man of god introduces sexual laws
forbidding homoerotic relationships, laws which punish runaway slaves, and laws which demand that none of his female slaves have sex with anyone but
himself; and not content to punish and execute his slaves for violating God's laws, he introduces the idea that such punishments are not only confined
to earth, but are eternal punishments, and that in the afterlife, his vile and sadistic god will extract a terrible punishment on those who dare to
Not content with merely restricting the behaviour of the enslaved, the men of god have introduced the idea of "thought crime," and that even desiring
his slaves constitutes the sin of adultery and is a "sin against god" for which confession, repentance and penance are required.
To be "chaste" in Biblical, Islamic and Vedic terms, is a term which can only be understood by understanding the polygamous (many wives) slave
societies which the texts of those vile and hateful slave religions originated from; to be chaste simply means for a woman to be a good slave and for
a man of god not to have sex with the slaves of other masters without the permission of the master, or unless he purchases additional woman as his
personal sex slaves from another master, or he takes women captive as the spoils of war.
It has been very common in the history of Islam in Africa for the "men of god" to cut out the tongues of male captive slaves and to castrate them, in
order to enforce such holy laws, and millions of African males have been subjected to this practice throughout history of Islam in Africa, but it is a
much more ancient tradition which predates Islam.
Certainly the sexual revolution of particularly the latter part of the 20th century has encouraged the men of god to become more diplomatic in speech
when referring to women who refuse to become slaves (i.e., wives) or to males and females who follow the Law of nature act according to their
polyamorous (i.e., "many lovers" as opposed to "polygamous:" many wives / slaves) bisexual nature, but such utterances are only the diplomacy of an
enemy whose speech does not conform to his behaviour, and to his belief in "God's Will," which is the utter enslavement of humankind and the
restriction and weakening of human will; for what slavemaster would ever tolerate a slave's empowerment of will? It is the weakening of human will
which is the objective of "God's Will; it is the production of a population of miserable, cowering, frightened, obedient slaves who fear eternal
punishment for rebellion which is the objective of the men of God who promote the vile blasphemy of God's will.
Religion and the Techniques of Sexual and Psychological Enslavement
“Sex is the most powerful instinct in man. The politician and the priest have understood from the very beginning that sex is the most driving energy
in man. It has to be curtailed, it has to be cut. If man is allowed total Freedom in sex, then there will be no possibility to dominate him. To make a
slave out of him will be impossible.
Have you not seen it being done? When you want a bull to be yoked to a cart, what do you do? You castrate him, you destroy his sex energy. And have
you seen the difference between a bull and an ox? What a difference! An ox is a poor phenomenon, a slave. A bull is a beauty; a bull is a glorious
pheonomenon, a great splendor. See a bull walking, how he walks like an emperor! And see an ox pulling a cart.
The same has been done to man. The sex instinct has been curtailed, cut, crippled. Man does not exist as the bull now, he exists like the ox, and each
man is pulling a thousand and one carts. Look and you will find behind you a thousand and one carts, and you are yoked to them.
Why can’t you yoke a bull? The bull is too powerful. If he sees a cow passing by, he will throw both you and the cart, and he will move to the cow!
He will not bother a bit about who you are, and he will not listen. It will be impossible to control the bull. Sex energy is life energy; it is
uncontrollable. And the politician and the priest are not interested in you, they are interested in channeling your energy into other directions. So
there is a certain Mechanism behind it--it has to be understood.
Sex repression, tabooing sex, is the very foundation of human slavery. Man cannot be free unless sex is free. Man cannot be really free unless his sex
energy is allowed natural growth.
These are the five tricks through which man has been turned into a slave, into an ugly phenomenon, a cripple.
The first is:
Keep man as weak as possible if you want to dominate him. If the priest wants to dominate you or the politician wants to dominate you, you have to be
kept as weak as possible. And the best way to keep a man weak is not to give love total freedom. Love is nourishment..."
Keep man as ignorant and deluded as possible so that he can easily be deceived..."
"...The third secret:
Keep man as frightened as possible. And the sure way is not to allow him love, because love destroys fear--’love casteth out fear.’ When you are
not in love you become more interested in security, in safety. When you are in love you are more interested in adventure, in exploration...."
Keep man as miserable as possible--because a miserable man is confused, a miserable man has no self-worth, a miserable man is self-condemnatory, a
miserable man feels that he must have done something wrong. A miserable man has no grounding--you can push him from here and there, he can be turned
into driftwood very easily. And a miserable man is always ready to be commanded, to be ordered, to be disciplined, because he knows ’On my own I am
simply miserable. Maybe someody else can discipline my life.’ He is a ready victim."
"And the fifth:
Keep men as alienated from each other as possible, so that they cannot band together for some purpose of which the priest and the politician may not
approve. Keep people separate from each other. Don’t allow them too much intimacy. When people are separate, lonely, alienated from each other, they
cannot band together. And there are a thousand and one tricks to keep them apart.
For example, if you are holding the hand of a man--you are a man and you are holding the hand of a man and walking down the road, singing--you will
feel guilty because people will start looking at you. Are you gay, homosexual or something? Two men are not allowed to be happy together. They are
condemned as homosexuals. Fear arises. If your friend comes and takes your hand in his hand, you look around: ’Is somebody looking or not?’ And
you are just in a hurry to drop the hand..."
....the mentioned "Christian soldier" and "suicide bomber" issue, here's a relevant quote from a White Lodge aspirant of Rosicrucianism and wise
author Max Heindel:
"The religion miscalled Christianity has therefore been the bloodiest religion known, not excepting Mohammedanism, which in this respect is somewhat
akin to our malpracticed Christianity.
The term "malpracticed Christianity," when used by the men of god (the enemies of humankind) generally always is a proposal of the lie that
Christianity is a bad religion only because the Christian vermin do not follow the teachings of the Jesus of the Gospels closely enough; however when
one studies the fictional religious schizophrenic, Jesus, a person who followed his teachings would have to be a penniless, homeless, shoeless,
propertyless (apart from one robe and a sword) wandering rabbi who dedicates his life to the practice of fake healings, fake miracles and the
promotion of the primitive belief that mental and physical illnesses can be cured by "casting out evil spirits."
Since the Jesus of the Gospels was not in any way a "reformer" of the Judaic "law and the prophets," but rather a strict fundamentalist who promoted
adherence to the letter of the law, if anyone were ever to take such savage teachings seriously, the consequences for humankind would be entirely
There is an even more venmous creature than the Christian fundamentalist whose hypocrisy is at least openly apparent, and this is the "Gnostic
Christian," who understands the fabrication of the Gospels, and who in place of the primitive fabrication which are the Gospels, these men of god
simply promote their own transcendental ramblings, beliefs, bigotry and misinterpretations; such men of god are simply too cowardly to speak in their
own name, and so they hide behind the religous fanatic Jesus and claim to represent him, conscious of his celebrity status; thinking that their
ramblings will be subjected to less criticism if they have a dead religious celebrity whom they can misrepresent.
On the battle field and in the Inquisition innumerable and unspeakable atrocities have been committed in the name of the gentle Nazarene.
The "gentle Nazarene?" Is this the same gentle Nazarene who promoted the strict adherence to the vile Mosaic law, and whose god was a psychopathic
Bronze Age ethnic cleanser? Could this be the same "gentle Nazarene" who referred to a gentile (foreign) woman as a dog, who cursed unbelievers with
eternal hell, and who is expected to return as a genocidal warlord to carry out the global extermination of all non believers?
The "gentle Nazarene" is merely the product of a deluded mind who has "cherry picked" and "quote mined" his way through the Bible in much the same way
that one could slectively quote innocent passages from Hitler's "Mein Kampf;" a work which promotes a hideous and racist ideology, but an ideology far
less genocidal and more progressive than that of the tribalistic war god of the Bible, whose men of god openly advocated the genocide and enslavement
of competing tribes.
"The Sword and the Wine Cup--the perverted Cross and Communion Chalice--have been the means by which the more powerful of the so-called Christian
nations gained supremacy over the heathen peoples,
Since the Christians are "men of god" who have rejected the primitive and savage religion of Jesus (Mosaic Judaism), the Christians "are" the
"Indeed, what truly happens is that wars have never been fought for ideologies; wars have always occurred due to commercial matters. The populaces,
the middle classes, are not the ones who invent the wars; this has always been done by the economic industries of the powerful ones; therefore, wars
are due to commercial problems. Yes, the powerful ones invent the wars. It is painful to see the wretched populaces being deceived by the
monopoly-party of the powerful ones. Those gentlemen make the populace believe that they must fight on behalf of their “threatened mother
country,” religion, on behalf of democracy, for the cause of the proletariat, etc., etc., etc. Thus, this is how the deceived populaces go to the
slaughter house; that is all.
"Even the medieval wars, the Crusades, were wars for the commerce of spices....
Yes it is certainly the case that wars are fought for economic causes, and this Marxian truthism includes also religious wars; religion has certainly
been a "useful" tool to incite war and to motivate the armies of slaves to fight, but war is almost always fought for economic reasons, and this is
certainly true for the current armed violent Capitalist revolution which has been occurring since the end of WW2, and which appears to have as it's
purpose the economic enslavement of humankind under the "Dictatorship of International Capitalism."
Certainly alongside the armies of the Anglo-American state terrorists / narco-terrorists, there is an army of military chaplains who bury the dead,
and who promise such mercenaries (who generally fight for Capital, not for god) eternal salvation with the God of Capitalism in the afterlife, as a
reward for waging war against his enemies on earth, and certainly "God" is a useful keyword for the political propagandists of Capitalist Imperialism,
but the causes of the current campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan are economic, and such campaigns would never have happened had Iraq not been oil rich
and had Afghanistan not had the potential to become the world's major source of heroin, which the narco-terrorists depend upon for their black budgets
and to support their banking industry.
"God" is generally a term for the most vile of blasphemies and heresies, that the living gods (i.e., human beings) are weak, miserable, willess
wretches, and of course, as soon as one becomes an ally of God, that is precisely what one transforms into.
There has never been a great philosopher who has been an ally of God; all the great philosophers had sufficent moral courage and conviction to declare
themselves to be the eternal enemies of God and of the "men of God;" and it is upon such a conviction that the salvation of humankind depends.
The creation of the New Heaven and New earth is entirely dependent on the triumph of human will and upon the declaration of an evangelical, militant
hatred of god and of the "men of god."
Great and Terrible and Dreadful and Wrathful shall be the day of Judgement, and it shall be a judgement upon god and upon the men of god.
No mercy or quarter on they who deserve none.
Fire, plague and poisoned waters.
Blasphemy, Heresy, War, Revolution, etc.
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by Lucifer777
The thread is full of partial extracts from web pages; had I posted entire web pages it would have been innapropriate.
Nobody mentioned posting enitre web pages, the rebuke was for taking parts of a paragraph to support your arguement when the writers sentiments we
revealed in the latter part of the same paragraph, and which consequently did not fit your agenda.
I am quite happy to post the "entire" page on Hodap's judgement on the Jesters and Shriners here; however, to restate; the two quotations which I
cited were sufficient to present his opinion that corruption and misbehavior were both institutional and endemic in these two organisations of
American Freemasons, and nothing else that you quoted from his web page refutes that, or refutes what you appear to consider to be the "agenda" of
this thread, which as far as I am concerned is to present these two fraternities of American Freemasons as the corrupt charity scams of rather silly
old men in strange hats, for whom "esoteric initiation" seems to have more in common with the rather stupid drunken initiations of US college frat
"ordo ab chaos"
A Scottish Rite "Chaplain's" Testimony of the "Holy and Sacred Rubber Penis" Shriner Initiation.
I was Chaplain in the Scottish rite and a degree master. In the blue Lodge I was senior deacon and preparing to be the junior warden, only two chairs
away from the office of worshipful master. I was very busy with all this responsibility.
The following fall however, after the reunion, I decided it was time to enter the Shrine.
Mike had come into the Scottish rite at spring Reunion and now was eligible also.
We went into the Shrine together. I knew that the Shrine initiations got really rambunctious and wondered what might happen when they laid hands
roughly on Mike. The initiation was performed in the Coliseum
before a very large crowd of Shriners who came to see the fun.
We began the initiation about noon that Saturday. After the medical screening came the hazing, which was very childish. Some of it was not only
childish, but downright vulgar. At one point we were placed in a large, mesh cage, and one of the Shriners climbed up on top of it. He exposed a very
convincing rubber penis which was connected to a water bag concealed in his clothing and hosed down all of us in the cage to the delighted howls of
After the hazing it was time for the serious part, the ritual, and then time to take the oath. We took the obligation, again with terrible bloody
consequences if we revealed any of the "secrets" (one form of mayhem we promised to accept was to have our "eyeballs pieced to the center with a
sharp, three-edged blade"). And, with the Koran on the altar, we sealed our solemn oath in the name of "Allah, the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan,
the god of our fathers." I had taken so many bloody oaths already (one for each degree) that I paid little attention to this one, except to notice
that it, like the rest of the ritual, featured desert settings, Arabs and Allah, the Mohammedan god.
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