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Stunner! Supremes to give eligibility case another look

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posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
The time for verifying qualifications to serve as POTUS should have been over and done with years ago. Even if there crops-up a "technicality" after elections it should only effect eligibility for the next election. If though, there is overwhelming evidence of a crime, a fraud, that would be an exception.

Who declared Obama eligible in the first place? Isn't there someone responsible for that?


Why, yes. Yes there is. There are two people actually, who are responsible for that.

Please see pics at link below.

And, yes, I am stating unequivocally that I believe they perjured themselves to do so. Why? In Hawaiian law, perjury during the performance of an official capacity amounts to a misdemeanor. In the other 49 states, this is probably not the case. Martha Stewart, if you recall, was convicted of conspiracy, perjury, making a false statement and obstruction of justice, but was acquitted of making a false document.

Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean will not have that same charge in any other state because they submitted another form to the 49 other states. See pics at link below.
www.canadafreepress.com...
edit on 17-2-2011 by Califemme because: I must fix link issues.




posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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Yes I am smarter then you....
In my opinion your foolish belief structure is fed by your racist opinion of the black president...who ,by the way,I believe is also smarter then you....and thank you for asking my opinion.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by nivekronnoco
reply to post by Califemme
 


Yes I am smarter then you....
In my opinion your foolish belief structure is fed by your racist opinion of the black president...who ,by the way,I believe is also smarter then you....and thank you for asking my opinion.


Your beliefs are wrong. I'm not the one lying to you. I'm not the one who suckered you all in with his "exotic" past just so I could steal from you and your children. You've heard the reports, you've heard the rumors, are you really still so blind to it?

He has spent more money than ALL the other presidents COMBINED and he has 10% unemployment. Back in 2004, before the elections, CNN, NBC, ABC, FOX, all of the media were reporting the democrat's wails of "jobs!!" and the "economy" and, yet, unemployment was at 4.7%. Get that? 4.7%!!!

Obama said if we let him spend a trillion dollars, unemployment would not go above 8%. It's at 10% as of the latest numbers. What will it take to wake you up? Just because you disagree with someone is no reason to call them a racist. I assumed color meant nothing to you. Apparently, it means something to you.
edit on 17-2-2011 by Califemme because: I must.



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

They made an exception for themselves as founders of the Nation but not future immigrants. Read the constitution.



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:38 AM
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Yeah, yeah. Anyone who challenges Obama or his socialist extremes, is a racis hater.



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
The time for verifying qualifications to serve as POTUS should have been over and done with years ago. Even if there crops-up a "technicality" after elections it should only effect eligibility for the next election. If though, there is overwhelming evidence of a crime, a fraud, that would be an exception.

Who declared Obama eligible in the first place? Isn't there someone responsible for that?


Very good question! People began questioning Obama's qualifications before he was elected. All the Secretaries of State refused to respond to the evidence and requests as did the GOP and the DNC. Then the electors were solicited for action before they nominated him. They refused to ask. Then after complaining all during the election and filing law suits, it came time for Congress to confirm him. It took only one representative to force him to prove his citizenship. No one had the courage nor care to make sure the constitution was being upheld - even in the face of a lot of evidence that he was not constitutionally qualifed.

You could say it was a "bi-partisan" act of treason. By the way. The Democrat controlled Congress did address questions about McCain's presidential qualification because he was born overseas while his dad was in the military. But no one asked about Obama even in the face of all the evidence!



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 02:51 AM
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This birther thing can go on and on and on.....for years and yet nothing may never come of it.

The bottom line is.....Obama is worthless as POTUS.

I'm going to bed! G'night all!
edit on 18/2/11 by Intelearthling because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by sara123123
reply to post by Aquarius1
 


Yeah, yeah. Anyone who challenges Obama or his socialist extremes, is a racis hater.


Such an empty defense. Please do yourself a favore and type "birth certificate" into the search box. Spend some time reading those threads. You will notice a very common theme among the "bither" factions and it is quite easily boiled down.

The premise is that all past presidents get a pass on this issue as that is settled. The premise is the the method of determining eligibility has been sufficient UP UNTIL NOW. The premise is that every president that has been in that office has been elected fairly and proven to qualify for at least the nomination. The premise is that THIS PRESIDENT is different though. The premise is that something about Obama is so different that things need to change now in order to remove him from office.

So what is so different about him?
He is a democrat. Is he the first one in office?
He is black. Is he the first one in office?

Maybe you can tell us what the difference is.



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by sara123123
reply to post by Aquarius1
 


Yeah, yeah. Anyone who challenges Obama or his socialist extremes, is a racis hater.


Such an empty defense. Please do yourself a favore and type "birth certificate" into the search box. Spend some time reading those threads. You will notice a very common theme among the "bither" factions and it is quite easily boiled down.

The premise is that all past presidents get a pass on this issue as that is settled. The premise is the the method of determining eligibility has been sufficient UP UNTIL NOW. The premise is that every president that has been in that office has been elected fairly and proven to qualify for at least the nomination. The premise is that THIS PRESIDENT is different though. The premise is that something about Obama is so different that things need to change now in order to remove him from office.

So what is so different about him?
He is a democrat. Is he the first one in office?
He is black. Is he the first one in office?

Maybe you can tell us what the difference is.


Maybe you can tell us what the constitution says about qualifing for President of the United States and stop playing the race card. There is nothing different about Obama; he's not above the law. He needs to clear this up and also release his school and medical records like all the other modern presidents have done. He can do it. He's for transparancy.



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by sara123123
Maybe you can tell us what the constitution says about qualifing for President of the United States and stop playing the race card.


I did not play the race card. I simply pointed out that it was clearly still in the deck. I am sorry you chose to pick that one up but do not blame me.

Since your google is broken, let me help you out.
You need to be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the United States of America, at least 35 years of age before taking office, and have lived in the United States for at least 14 years of your life.

Anything else I can help with? Need plane reservations or a cheap sweater while I am up?


There is nothing different about Obama;


There isn't???????

You do not say. So he is just like all the president before him? As in, he was democratically elected after being found eligible in the SAME manner as the presidents before him, right? So the birther conspiracy just goes away just like that. You are good. All over.


he's not above the law. He needs to clear this up and also release his school and medical records like all the other modern presidents have done. He can do it. He's for transparancy.


Clear what up? If I tell you that the sky is blue, you look at the blue sky and tell me it is not. What else could I do? You cannot clear up what people refuse to allow to be cleared up. I have tried to have a real conversation about this many times. People just want to post rumors and run off. People want to angrily complain about Obama all while pretending they never heard of John McCain without offering what their complaints have to do in support of their original birther claim.

After a while and a lot of racist emails, I tend to lean to one conclusion. Obama showed his eligivility just like everyone before him. In fact more so at this point. For some reason, people still say that THIS president deserves further scrutiny than the others did but just cannot say why outside claiming ignorance of things they have just as much ignorance of with regard to predecessors.

Are you interested in the truth or are you just interested in removing Obama?



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by sara123123
He needs to clear this up and also release his school and medical records like all the other modern presidents have done.


Have they?

Please show us these records for all the modern presidents.

If you are unable to, how about you stop telling lies!



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 04:13 AM
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This was debunked in the first thread.
Either people don't care about duplicates or they didnt like facts getting in way of fantasy.

Come on guys, lets try and keep some quality to the threads.



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Do your own research. Maybe you can remember the kooks of politics arguing over Algore's, Kerry's and Bush's grades in college? Your man can release his college transcripts like everyone else. Afterall, he is absolutely brilliant and has nothing to hide.



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia
I did not play the race card. I simply pointed out that it was clearly still in the deck. I am sorry you chose to pick that one up but do not blame me.



You didn't play the race card? Well, maybe not here, but you did say this to me on another Obama thread:


Originally posted by Sinnthia
The reason this is all so entertaining is that the people that push this rumor are obviously people that have never actually attended a decent sized institution of any kind much the same way the people that cry fraud about the birth certificate itself show a stunning display of certificate ignorance.

I am going to miss the birthers so I can only hope we get an openly Muslim Female with no living family running for office soon before all the birthers find something shiny.


So, you denigrate all the people who question the man's birth certificate by insinuating that they must all lack a higher education. By which you mean intellect, right? Reminds me of the Wisconsin Teachers striking and bringing shouts of "Don't do this to you neighbor!" Why would you say such things about a very large group of people who have questions about his eligibility? Anyway, back to your post, to which I replied:


Originally posted by Califemme
... because I have 1 naturalized citizen parent and I was born out of this country, I couldn't be President. (If you haven't figured this out yet, I take THIS issue very personal) So don't sit there on your high horse and presume to know MY intentions or convictions.

You could have had female candidate with one Roman Catholic parent and one Buddhist parent, but it seems you'd prefer me to be a Muslim and and my family dead.
Sheesh, the things you people say!


Well, did you or did you not play the race card? And why is it so important to you people? Like when Chris Mathews said (on air) that he "forgot for a minute that the President was black."

And don't tell me Muslim is not a race, because the minute we want to profile at the airport, you all come screaming in with "NO RACIAL profiling!!!"
edit on 19-2-2011 by Califemme because: I must fix typos.



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Califemme
You didn't play the race card? Well, maybe not here, but do you recall saying this to me?:


Originally posted by Sinnthia
The reason this is all so entertaining is that the people that push this rumor are obviously people that have never actually attended a decent sized institution of any kind much the same way the people that cry fraud about the birth certificate itself show a stunning display of certificate ignorance.

I am going to miss the birthers so I can only hope we get an openly Muslim Female with no living family running for office soon before all the birthers find something shiny.


Yes, I do and I did not mention RACE anywhere in that post at all. How does this help your point?


To which I replied:

I will respond to that reply in that thread. Why do you want me to respond to the same post in two different threads?

I still have not played any race card and I have no clue what your point on that is here.



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia
Clear what up? If I tell you that the sky is blue, you look at the blue sky and tell me it is not.


See? Even in your example, we get to examine the object in question. So why fight us looking at it?



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Califemme
See? Even in your example, we get to examine the object in question. So why fight us looking at it?


I am not fighting anyone looking at anything. The only thing I argue about people looking at is all this nonsense that they never needed to nor still request from any past president. You want his birth certificate but you have seen that. You all just claim it is not a birth certificate. I cannot help you there. You get to see it but deny it so no fighting you seeing that. You want some college records too and medical records too? I guess I need examples from the past "modern" presidents to know what you all want to see from this one that is not some new thing you all invented in 2008.

My example is actually perfectly analogous. I have pointed at the photos of the birth certificate and watched you all scream that is not a birth certificate. I cannot point to the sky any more than I already am.



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by sara123123
Do your own research.


I have, and am unable to find the medical records that you claim have been released for previous Presidents. So how about you stop lying by claiming that they have been released.

You should just accept the fact that a black man is the properly elected POTUS!



posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by dereks

You should just accept the fact that a black man is the properly elected POTUS!


A black Muslim from Kenya is the duly elected President of the United States? That's odd...... oh well, stranger things have happened I suppose!



posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Yeah it is odd - cos it's a load of bull manure.

A black man from Hawaii is POTUSA (how long until "potusa" enters spoken slang - will it be the actual title in 500 years?? :wow
- much more reasonable, and also the truth.......go figure!

edit on 20-2-2011 by Aloysius the Gaul because: just my crappy typing




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