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Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by 46ACE
reply to post by 46ACE
Forget it I found that same story on a "progressive" site."which means its spun so hard the colors are flying off on my monitor onto my shoes.
edit on 17-2-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)
Everything you asked for a link for is demonstrably true and yet, instead of attempting to even remotely argue the FACTS, you instead hit google and dispute YOUR OWN RESEARCH. Is this really the depth of political discourse now? You google something, find a source you do not like, then bash your own source, all while ignoring the FACTS? Interesting technique.
Originally posted by infolurker
reply to post by candide
Out of my entire post that is all you got out of it? You don't see the irony there?
Unfortunately, nobody is truly restructuring the pensions or converting yet. This is about paying 12% of the cost of their health insurance plan and not getting pay raises without a State vote... oh the horror. And the Government workers actually get to VOTE every year on if they want to keep their corrupt union or not.... guess we cannot have that can we?
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
Just comes to show how Democrats love to face the challenges ahead, by tucking tail and running....
Wisconsin state Senate Democrats boycotting a vote on a plan to curb the union rights of public employees left the state on Thursday in an attempt to force majority Republicans to negotiate a compromise, an online political news service said.
Erpenbach would not disclose where he was or how many of the Democratic senators were with him.
"We were left with no choice," Erpenbach said. Erpenbach would not say how long they were prepared to remain outside Wisconsin.
"The question is when are the Republicans going to sit down seriously with the other side on this issue and try to work something out," Erpenbach told WisPolitics. "When are we going to be reasonable about this and slow things down?"
"This isn't anything that we do lightly at all," Erpenbach said. "This isn't a prank. This isn't a joke. This is Democrats standing together saying slow down."
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I don't have health care insurance,
What gets me is that these teachers, most who probably voted for Obama don't want to
Share the wealth,
Tighten their belts,
While I will have to pay or get fined by IRS
dailycaller.com...edit on 112828p://bFriday2011 by Stormdancer777 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by palg1
reply to post by Drezden
You said it well.
Unfortunately politics is about "show" sometimes.. Why does the US and UK ambassadors at the UN always walk out when Ahmadinejad starts a speech?
It wastes time, but it sends a pretty big message.
edit on 2/17/2011 by Drezden because: (no reason given)
The difference.... Ahmadinejad is expressing opinion that is contrary to the UK, US,etc. view of the world. The UN process is not impeded by their leaving. These Dems are impeding the political process. Listen, if they are concerned about the vote why did they not show up in force to debate then vote against it. They would have lost but at least heir voice would have been heard and their vote would have been counted. Instead what they did was hijack the political process and in essence negating the vote of all those who voted for the Reps in the last election. Discounting the fact that they wasted state funds in salaries and buses etc., The real damage they did was to diminished the importance of their democracy as a whole.
edit on 18-2-2011 by palg1 because: (no reason given)