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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by sonnny1
Your post is about as perfect an example of an ad-hominem attack as any I've seen. The protest centers around the governors desire to strip these workers of any collective bargaining rights.
Originally posted by NightSkyeB4Dawn
reply to post by HoldTheBeans
It is easy for people to ask others to tighten their belts and to go without for their benefit, but they quickly shy from the pot and have a thousand excuses when it is their time to ante up. Teachers have families and bills to pay just like everyone else and since they have been under paid for years now when things get extra tight you expect them to do with even less. They are putting up with your children and many of them are so poorly disciplined and behaved that even their parents don’t want to deal with them. If you don’t want to pay to have someone take on the responsibility of your child then keep them home and school them yourselves. For some people this will be an advantage for their children since the lot of most schools are a bunch of angry, rebellious, ignorant and violent children that are a bane to the schools and neighborhoods with parents that could not care less.
People don’t ask the union to come in unless they are being abused and unfairly treated by the administration where they work and are left with no voice, no advocacy and no recourse. The unions may be bad but they are better than what they have. When faced with drowning in an ocean, you can dream of rescue by a yacht but you will cling to a Styrofoam box if floats by.
Originally posted by HoldTheBeans
So is everybody else's retirement funds. Welcome to reality.
Originally posted by Zaanny
People seem to not understand that union wages set the bar for a working wage.
Hence increases non union wages....
If collective barraging goes out the window so does prevailing wages.
and lower wages across the board...
Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by sonnny1
What has any of that to do with collective bargaining issues?
You keep bringing up irrelevancies.
Who called who what might make some sort of difference to you, but it is not germane to the discussion. How much union leaders get paid is between them and their membership who pays them. What business is it of yours or anyone else's?
It still isn't germane to the subject under discussion.