So, What’s the name of this Union is Wisconsin?
Sounds like they do get quite a lot of free benefits from the state. My wife is a teacher, but not in Wisconsin. The district is union she teaches
in. My wife is just shocked how much the state pays into in their benefits in Wisconsin. My wife pays allot towards her retirement fund, medical,
dental vision etc. more than some private sector employees do. Then the State my wife works in (NM) is proposing the teachers will have to work for
35 years to get there retirement that they them self’s contribute a good portion of salary to. So the Union here is about to have another big
protest in NM. Now that is Truly unfair to teachers and state workers who are about to retire, now they might have to work 10- 15 more years ? So the
State of NM is trying to meet the union on this. I’m not a union person, but I do agree with the teachers and state employees in NM that belong to
the union. Making them work 10- 15 more years what the… $&^**.
Now if that was happening in Wisconsin (slapping more years on them until they retire) I’m sure the public would be behind them. My wife says those
teachers and state working are going to have to pay their fair share sooner or later, if they want to keep their jobs. All states have a law, you walk
off you loose employment, so my wife says. She was a Union-Rep at one time, she said any Governor can make that law stick if they want to. I know if
the national guard comes in to do your job ,your job is lost. So in my state NM teachers are going to take another drop in pay, then they are talking
about layoffs, and increasing the classroom size to almost double. The public is getting involved in this now in support of the teachers, even the
public sector knows this is a bad idea in NM. ( doubling classroom size )
The state workers and teachers in Wisconsin cannot let the state change the retirement work years in any circumstance. This is where it will go if
the union gives up some collective bargaining. The retirement time might come up like its has in NM and other states, only after the union though
they had an agreement. I can see making contribution to the state retirement fund, but extending the time for retirement like they’re trying to do
here is not a good Idea. The governor needs too or representative needs to sit down with the unions on this matter and not shove this down there
throats. I think that is why the Democrats left and will force the Governor of Wisconsin to do this. So, I can see why the union is having this big
protest, they might end up working 10-15 more years if they give up some bargaining like the governor of Wisconsin is asking for. teacher might end up
with double the classroom size too.
It’s not only fiscal, but who’s to say the governor might not change classroom size, putting additional work loads on the teachers, like ESL,
additional testing for NCLB, things like that, and that stuff requires extra pay because some of that is a specialty for teachers and requires
additional certifications that these teachers invest in.
You guys see the point here why they’re protesting. Teaching is not a 9-5 job like some think it is. By giving up the collective bargaining, except
for pay the teachers might loose big time in the end. Some states have teachers preforming additional duties now for no pay that there not certified
to do. Some have already increased the classroom size. A good example some districts have the standard elementary education teachers, teaching
children with special needs, autism, dow syndrome etc, in regular classrooms that they are not qualified to do, in additional to this there trying to
teach an overloaded classroom of 35 kids. so ask yourself is this good for my child. ? Then wonder why the schools cannot meet AYP standards.
edit on 19-2-2011 by SJE98 because: (no reason given)