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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
This could be a win-win for a lot of people, couldn't it? I applaud this mayor and Detroit for taking steps to attempt to revitalize his town, and am going to choose to ignore pessimists, naysayers, and the usual doom and gloomers who will likely be along any minute now to tell us how this is a waste of money and won't ever work.edit on 2/17/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)
This is a waste of money that will never work, the government is going to test HAARP on these neighborhoods, when Yellow Stone blows they are right on the fault line and will be swallowed up, but the invading Reptilian Space Aliens are going to eat you before the earth does, even though by then the Chinese army will be patrolling the streets and harassing everyone not in a FEMA Concentration camp, or killed by the Terrorist Nuclear False Flag and anyone who beats the odds is just going to fall into outerspace during the Pole Shift.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by ldyserenity
Unions were the blessing and the bane of progress in the industry. I can't criticize what they did, especially in the beginning, but I certainly can't blame the automakers for looking elsewhere in the end.
I agree to let bygones be bygones. If our project treated employees the way Google does, and we profit shared and fostered an environment for innovation and paid them to work on their own projects in their free time, then we would not have to worry about Unions.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by network dude
I like where you are going with that.....could be turned in to a community based thing, there's enough land and old industrial sites for growing fresh produce (even open a market) ; the sky's the limit!
Originally posted by cypwolf
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by network dude
I like where you are going with that.....could be turned in to a community based thing, there's enough land and old industrial sites for growing fresh produce (even open a market) ; the sky's the limit!
the problem is those industrial sights are brownfields with high conecntrations of lead and other harmful byproducts of the early industrial age. Anyhting grown on these sites with not meet agricultural standards and will be harmful to the residents in the surrounding communities until the sites themselves are cleaned up. Many of those early houses, especially the ones that have been gutted, probably contain large amounts of asbestos that would require a lot of prep work to take down. Any purchase of these places should be done with the utmost caution and the site should be fully investigated prior to purchase.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
The only way to break the corporate and government chains that bind us is to break them. Produce locally and buy locally. Become the government. Does all this take some sacrifice? You betcha. It isn't going to be easy or fast, but it needs focus, and once more people have this focus, it will be so worth it. It's really the only way.
Taking back our country, one city at a time.
edit on 2/17/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by ldyserenity
Yes you are correct. While I had a large fresh produce market in mind, I was thinking of a great one in Utah.
These empty suburbs of Detroit is not for the faint hearted but for those who are prepared to roll their sleeves up and do some serious work; I don't think that would pose a problem amongst some ATS members and those who want a good stab at it. I can't see how a project can fail if everyone stays focused; friendships new and old will be made and the future is limitless.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by hp1229
I disagree (unless I missed that you were kidding?). We cannot stop investing in our people or our cities just because we have this debt hanging over us. That would only put the final nail in our coffin. Even though some of the corporations and the portions of the government in their pockets, who also coincidentally brought a lot of this down on us, have stopped believing in and investing in this country, it doesn't mean everyone has. Find solace in and take advantage of that.
edit on 2/17/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)
If the system has failed completely then it is easier to fix the system. If the system is not broke, it will continue to remain the same...FUBAR. Do you think the corrupt system will let someone waltz in and change the image of Detroit for real? I'm sure they'll go through the same BS of spending countless dollars and hours before anything can be really done to the city to improvize its infrastructure and landscape. The legal system is such that only filthy rich folks can afford to invest. People like us cannot since no Banks are willing to invest either.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by hp1229
Okay. You just lost me. Sorry.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by hp1229
But I was speaking of a new system. That's where our disconnect is maybe.