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Detroit Will PAY You To Take One Of These 100 Abandoned Homes

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posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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Spot on.....

I found with any gang I had run in to many years ago....you take them out on their own individually for the most part they were pretty good guys; it's not that difficult to find middle ground with them however their gang leaders would need "individual" treatment in a place of no witnesses.




posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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We've got a point man.....getreadyalready



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Originally posted by ldyserenity
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Congradulations on almost graduating, I can still remember when you were just this high, and heading off for your first day of kindergarden, oh where the time goes too?


Thanks, that made me smile,

I think it's true what other posters have said about a mass movement of like minded people would be more sufficient and would bring Detroit up from zero to 100 in no time; so should we form a type of community and list all those members who are in and find homes on the same block, etc? I can grow anything so I could do some farming. I could also raise chickens and collect eggs. Actually I have spent some time in Lancaster Pa with the Amish, I could do a lot of surviving off of growing produce, chickens, and cows, milking them and churning butter.

I would also like to add I have seen this actually work these incentives for Philadelphia, communities once again are tight, yeah they still have problems in some areas, but for the most part they have beautified the city and made it almost like it was when my grandparents were living there in 1930's to the 90's. It has even more swanky areas then in the 80's and 90's and it has come a long way from pretty much these same incentives.
edit on 17-2-2011 by ldyserenity because: i dunno how to fix this? Ack!



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:02 AM
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there is also this aspect of it:
www.detroitmasonic.com...
I remember a thread not long ago about how this building was destined to be demolished because of funding. As you and I know, there is a large pool of help to be had for that cause, if it was a viable effort. I thought about that before, but was discouraged because of the neighborhood. I figured that it would be a losing battle. But with a rejuvenation of the surrounding area, there would be no limit.

Call it

NDI

New Detroit Initiative!



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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well aside from gang members and random crack-heads, you also have large drug operations that depend on the city's plight for thier bottom line. you're literally talking about people that will have no problem killing you and any plans for rejuvenation you have.


oh just remebered, insane clown posse is from there too, I'm sure they will help ya!! maybe even bob sieger and maddonna, or smokey robinson and diana ross...
IMO the only person that has any shot of helping the town out is mike ilitch, you figure a way to generate enough revenue in the area to substain jobs and growth and he would be the first to assist.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Ok, you are now voted in as our Interior and Planning minister



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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I would work for you as a tech. I want no part of running another company, but I would be a find grunt.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Ya, I got that BMF wallet, but I need my wife's permission before I can carry it! I'm a tough SOB once I get permission.


In all honesty, I would love this project, I agree with Network Dude, it would need a more serious look, and a more serious plan, and some commitment from the City Council and Governor's Office to be sure they really were on board with it. We would need some experienced Grant Writers to get the State and Federal Money.

I probably have or could find back channels to the stars that we could use for private financing. I think Proto has more back channels than I do.

As with all things, it just takes money and time! I don't have enough of either of those things, but for a project of this magnitude, I would probably be willing to make the sacrifices if we could see that it was going to pay off in the end for the entire community.

I don't think we are supposed to "organize" or "recruit" on ATS, and since I am a Mod, we can't really discuss it further than the hypothetical on the open thread, but I see no reason people shouldn't do some follow up on their own and decide if a massive project is really a possibility. If it looks plausible, then it would have to be set up between individuals and not on an open forum.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:05 AM
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As for the gangs and druggies, many of us are ex-military and current/former LEOs. Certainly we could "handle the situation". We would need control over the law enforcement community to get our people to where they could legally intervene.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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great, I have lots of good ideas, and suck at following through with any of them. So I would need people who had cattle prods to poke me and remind me. I really think this could work with some serious planning.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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Everything is possible and nothing is impossible.

Israel was once baron and sourrounded by 250M Arabs who wanted the Jews dead, look at it now.....deserts turned green, flora abound and some of the best technology and food produce in the world.

It can be done with strong community spirit, hard work and a whole lot of guts!



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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Network Dude, that was running through my mind as well!


Make it a not-for-profit initiative, and get the support of the Grand Lodges, and we would have instant political support and some funding!



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Lol as many have pointed out it would be almost like the west when it was first being settled. We'd have to start at just basic survival, but I am down with that, and hey if you can't well your tech expertise will come in handy for optimal construction of windmills and greenhouses lol. No physical work would have to be required of everyone I suppose. LOL



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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Network Dude, that was running through my mind as well!


Make it a not-for-profit initiative, and get the support of the Grand Lodges, and we would have instant political support and some funding!

You and Network dude have all the ideas, get this train rolling!!! But please BAN Eminem from ever entering the city again! I can't stand him JMO, lol.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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Everything is possible and nothing is impossible.

Israel was once baron and sourrounded by 250M Arabs who wanted the Jews dead, look at it now.....deserts turned green, flora abound and some of the best technology and food produce in the world.

It can be done with strong community spirit, hard work and a whole lot of guts!


I appreciate this way of thinking! though it would help alot if the government had initiatives to create jobs here rather then overseas.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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Getreadyalready is correct however I too agree with you, I could get my teeth in to a project of this magnitude if there were enough people on board (if USA gave me a green card....).

It would take about a year to plan something this big out, thoughtfully and thoroughly.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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These were once some wonderful homes before the Big 3 began abandoning Detroit for savings on labor, health care costs by closing factories in the U.S. and opening them abroad, in an all too familiar process of Corporate America looking for greener pastures elsewhere to enhance and add to its bottom line.


While what you say is true, there is another truth, whites started the mass exodus to the suburbs and building a new downtown in Troy, Michigan in the late sixties a city just North of where I live. It wasn't just the whites who moved to the suburbs. In the sixties and seventies there was a lot of Red Lining where unscrupulous Realtors took advantage of residents and pushed them to sell because Blacks were moving into their neighborhoods..

If the riots of 1967 hadn't happened I think we would be looking at a very different picture today, which devastated the City and scared a lot of people.

Aside from some blighted areas Detroit is still a beautiful and vital city which has much to offer. it is those same people who fled to the suburbs that still support Detroit by going downtown to Greek Town, the Theater, Detroit Institute of Arts, Science, and to go to Hockey, Baseball and Football games. There are also two great schools there, Wayne State University, my Alma Mater and University of Detroit. Detroit houses two World Class Medical Centers also, Henry Ford and Detroit Medical Center among others.

There are also three major Casinos in Downtown Detroit which are doing very well and frequented big time by Suburbanites. I hear and read articles all the time written by people who are not from Michigan who say Detroit is dead and people are afraid to go there which is the big lie.

I wish Mayor Bing and the City of Detroit luck with this program, it's a beginning and hopefully one day my beautiful City where I was born will be revitalized.

Spirit of Detroit






posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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Detroit helped launch America into the 20th Century with its mass production of the Automobiles and it helped change the lifestyle nationwide.

Why couldn't it do it again with the next innovation?



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Before you lay blame on the big 3, you really should take a look at the terms of the Union Contracts that is responsible for that exodus. Job secuirty which allows GM to lay workers off, yet requiring to continue paying them close to their full time pay level.

About damn near impossible to fire workers who are drunk or on drugs while on the job. Refusing to negotiate in good faith when the economy tanked (I think they beleive money growns on trees).

Unions were a good idea a long time ago, but the mindset has not changed much with unions, or their sense of entitlement. If they cant keep costs down, which drives up the price of the product, which means people wont buy, or buy from other compoaines = unsustainable business model = Unions did not care.

Look at the highway system... The FDEderal load weight on a semi is 80k pounds. In michigan is 160k pounds, because of industry, and it absolutely destroys the road network, wasting money like its going out of style. The Granholm administration did not do enough to diversify the economy, and they saw the economic downturn coming, but chose to ignore it. In addition to paying local city taxes, county taxes and state taxes, and federal taxes, michigan makes use of their townships (for those not familiar, counties in michigan are broken down into smaller areas called townships, and those townships who form their own charter, havve a government to run as well, so another layer of taxes shows up.

There is enough blame to go around in Michigan outside the big 3.
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posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
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Before you lay blame on the big 3, you really should take a look at the terms of the Union Contracts that is responsible for that exodus.


Blaming is just a waste of time. This thread is discussing how to fix something, not to point fingers. If you ask me.



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