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Israel Warns It Might Act on Iranian Warships Passing Through Suez Canal

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posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 02:45 AM
Ive been watching this for 20 minutes and nothings been mentioned about these movements, interesting non the less. Its Press TV live from Iran apparently. The M.E. is kicking off all over.

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 04:47 AM
When will the International community respond to Israel's attacks on International shipping? They attacked the Turkish ships in International waters.
Cut off military support and they would be a better global citizen.
They deserve all they get for what they are doing to Gaza.

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 05:05 AM
This issue would not be threatening world peace if we would all just stay out of it, and let Israel and Iran duke it out mano-a-mano. Have all the major world powers sign an agreement not to get involved.

Winner takes all.
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posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 05:18 AM
Actually there are more jews in Iran.
Those in Iran are largely semite jews who are indigenous people to the middle east and have some claim on the land.
98% or thereabouts of Israeli Jews are not Semites and have no claim whatsoever to the western part of Palestine.
They are Khazars from the Russian Caucasus region who adopted judaism as a religion for political purposes some 1000 years ago.
There is no possible way that the God of Abraham promised the western portion of Palestine to the Askenazi, to a pack of central asian caucasians.
The occupation of Palestine by these eastern europeans is the greatest act of anti-semitism the world has ever witnessed.
Netanyahu is polish.
Whats he doing dispossessing the semite peoples of the area.

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 05:55 AM

wo Iranian naval vessels withdrew a request Thursday to transit the Suez Canal after Israel expressed concerns over the plans, a senior canal official said.

The official said no reason was given for the decision to withdraw the application. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, said it was not known if the vessels intended to transit the waterway at a later date.

The Suez Canal official identified the two vessels as the Alvand, a frigate, and the Kharq, a supply ship, and said they were en route to Syria. He said they were now in an area near the Saudi Red Sea port city of Jiddah.

Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said Wednesday that Iran was about to send two naval vessels through the Suez Canal for the first time in years, calling it a "provocation."

Israel considers Iran an existential threat because of its disputed nuclear program, ballistic missile development, support for militants in the region and its threats to destroy Israel. While Israel has pressed for international sanctions to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons, it has not taken the possibility of a military strike off the table.

Israeli Foreign Ministry officials could not immediately be reached for comment on Thursday.

Egypt's official MENA news agency quoted Ahmed al-Manakhly, a senior Suez Canal official, as denying that the waterway's management had received any requests by Iranian navy ships to transit the canal.

On Wednesday, U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley confirmed the presence of the two Iranian ships in the area of the canal but would not say whether that was considered provocative.

"There are two ships in the Red Sea," he said, "What their intention is, what their destination is, I can't say."

Vessels intending to transit the Suez Canal, which links the Red Sea and the Mediterranean, must give the waterway's authority at least 24-hour notice before entering the canal.

Only ships that don't meet safety requirements are banned from using the canal.

In the case of naval vessels, a clearance from the Egyptian defense and foreign ministries is required in advance, but is rarely withheld.

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 05:59 AM
Actually both of these cowards (IRAN
and Israel) have GUTS to fight in the current scenario...

1. Israel in dilemma over Egypt crisis..They need oil...

2. USA is not in a situation to face a WAR anymore. Pity... No Money...

3. IRAN have some 1920 model war machines..

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posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 06:40 AM

Originally posted by Q2IN2Y
I call BS. What kind of nation says "We MIGHT act"

Either you're going to Act or not.

Ummmm......Actually...That would be....Every Nation. Governments thrive on ambiguity. The old - slap in the face with a glove - telegraphing, went out with the "Three Musketteers".


posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 06:46 AM
reply to post by harishindl

USA had to borrow money from the chinese commies to invade Iraq. Ha ha ha. The red under the bed and now they have to borrow money to invade countrys. I dont see the point of all this about the suez, Israel dosnt obay international sea laws. They proved that when they pirated those Turkish aid ships, If it had of been somalies who had done that they would have been blown out of the water.
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posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 06:56 AM
I hate israel and their jew overlord zionist bastards from hell!, i have nothing against your average jew on the street but my GOD the eliteist zionist jews are the Source of SOOOOO much evil and source of wrongly distrubted money across the world, one reason so many starve around the world when they fart trillions for fun and can burn it it wouldent make a differense for them but for people in africa and such IT WOULD MAKE A HELL OF a difference they got so muuuuch of it those bastards dont care. Israel should never my opinion! blow it to bits n pices please!!! then USA would free and no more a Mercenary army for the isralien elites & the Mossad who Orchestrated 9/11 to force US to have a standing army with them,

Israel gone = Free American, That is if u kill the remaning isralien lobbies in the US, + rep!!!
America has become a slave to israel, that american people go over to Afghanistan & Iraq to die removing illusionary terrorist & protect USA makes me sad... the reality is they dont proect USA they die for israel... and oil ... so you help enrich those zionist further my god... i hate israel, what they done to USA & not to mention the world! Remove UN Remove Israel!!!!!

I remember when Obama was in Oslo,Norway there was soo rediclous amount of Israelien Cars with Black windows and, Israel flag beside their Car-ID number, mostly Mercedes!
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posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 07:11 AM

Originally posted by FarArcher
reply to post by Phantom28804

Yes, there was sufficient reason for you to include that information as Israel had been threatened and threatened, and threatened more with extinction, had their southern port access blocked, and Arab armies lined up on three sides with the stated purpose of "wiping them out."

You neglected to mention those little facts just to skew a point. Had nothing to do with "everyone" knows that. That is about the cheesiest backpedaling I've ever seen.

I hardly would call that backpedaling but you are entitled to your opinion. I do think it is good to point out how many times have the Israeli's made threats towards Iran. Furthermore how many times has Israel tried to convince the UN/USA to put more sanctions or to invade Iran. I would dare say that Israel has been pushing for an attack on Iran since the first Gulf War, but definitely since the second Gulf War.

What, for God's sake does the Blue on Blue attack on the USS Liberty have to do with this? Is this just more justification to hate Israel? I'm very much aware of the event, and I'm very much aware that the Liberty was out of place. It was supposed to be somewhere else, and in the middle of a shooting war, being in the wrong place is not good.

On the contrary I think this is very much a good point to show Israel's behavior. They knew it was a US ship they were firing on it has been reported time and time again. Yes the Israeli's covered it up and so did the US, but the fact remains they knew it was an allied ship and they still fired. There is a air force pilot from Israel who was court martialed after refusing to fire on the Liberty and he even came to testify in Washington about the attack and low and behold our Congress didn't want to hear a word of it. You spoke of being on the other side of friendly fire so I am assuming you served. Did you ever do any time with the Israeli military? I did and I can tell you that there is no real affection towards anyone. They are most certainly not all about how much they love America. In fact most of them are bitter that we wouldn't let them retaliate back in the first Gulf War.

I'm not arguing against Iran's navy and what-not being unable to pass anywhere in international waters, but we all know historically, Iran has never had any presence in the Med, as traditionally, Arabs all hate Persians, and vice-versa.

How is this different then our ships in and around Korea? I seriously doubt we gave much care to having our Warships there. Again this is typical Hypocrisy demonstrated by the US and it's allies.

Yep, Israel is paranoid. Upon becoming a nation, a coalition of Lebanon, Syria, Arab guerrillas, Transjordan, Saudi, Iraq, and Egyptians attacked, with the publicly stated purpose of wiping Israel out.

Same stated goal in 1967, Israel had their southern port blocked, and massive armies of infantry, armor and artillery that vastly outnumbered total Israeli forces attacked Israel from three sides from Syria, Jordan, and Egypt.

Attacked again in 1973 by a coalition of Syria and Egypt

You previously referred to my leaving out the facts of threats as a way to skew the argument in my direction. I wanted to point out that this is a good way to skew the argument in your direction. The entire history of Israel has nothing to do with Iran at all.

I am not saying Israel hasn't had a rough run of things, nor am I saying that Israel doesn't have enemies. I suppose my biggest arguments are that Israel tends to create it's own chaos for reasons I have previously stated before. It was once said in a Tom Clancy novel "Everyone knew that one day Israel would finally fire on unarmed Palestinians and the world would see who the true aggressor was." I actually thought this had finally happened when they attacked the aid ship, but that one seemed to get swept under the rug pretty good as well. Funny how all the bad things Israel does seems to just evaporate.

I suppose at this point the argument is over as the ships have turned around and changed there mind. I do want to state that I wonder what the US would have done in this situation.

Lets play a Devil's advocate scenario here. The US was moving Warships into the waters of the Gulf of Oman and dock off Kuwait for a year long exercise. Being our current state of affairs with Iran they consider the movement of these ships to be a provocation. Do you think there would be any hesitation by the US military to move those ships anyway? For that matter do you think the US would even tolerate such language from Iran? I would venture to say that US response would be something along the lines of. These are International Waters and if you attempt to make any moves on our vessels it will be taken as an act of war.

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 07:36 AM
Just thought I'd let you know.......Egypt says no to Iranian ships:

Sorry you arm chair warriors wanted fire....but it aint gonna happen!

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 07:37 AM
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I don't talk BS on ATS and some of you should know that by now.....

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 07:52 AM
reply to post by Vitchilo

israel is diggin their own graves i think its funny

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 07:55 AM
reply to post by harishindl

Not in position to face another war!?!? lmao We could take on the entire world without blinking if we wanted

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 08:07 AM

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by harishindl

Not in position to face another war!?!? lmao We could take on the entire world without blinking if we wanted

Okay... stop ur acting so stupid, america is brainwashing alot of it citizens so is russia & china & Eu but the difference is the % of people buying it... america is not the greatest anymore after ww2 u were.. but now israel has broken ur back and stolen most of ur money... you see its not enough to have 100 billion dollar for them they need 10000billino to be happy,and dont think they help distribute the money into the system again no they HUG all of it and sit on it, and if u think American(*Cough*Mossat Puppet) president care... hes does not he was put into the whitehouse by isralien lobbies in the US! their only happiness is not what money can buy.. but the overall idea of having all that money & can influence entire countries decision, America is a mercenary army, Israel is the superpower not the US anymore, US dont make it own decission israel does it for them! the idea that another country is running the america, causes a shiver down my spine, other poeple living in another country control u from the outside,

Look at this for military power between all 4 superpowers Russia,China,Eu,US!

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posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 08:15 AM
reply to post by Vitchilo

Whats that sound? a rattling sabre? what else is new more talk from the middle east all talk no show

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 08:41 AM

Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by copernicus2012
There not dictating who uses the suez canal! get real! There taking action against a people who have time and time again thats only goal is to kill jews and christians. And when warships are on the move in a highly stressed situation over there there gonna be a little worried. Would you want Iranian warships headed up the Mississippi for training exercises? I wouldnt!

Odd, there's more Jews in Iran than in Israel..
They are all fine..Iran is NOT anti Jew, that's obvious..

In iran they have about 25,000 Jews!
In Israel the have about 5.6 Million Jews, so please explain your comment as I am very confused by your statement?

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 08:50 AM
They are going for the Khazars thing. Probably going to claim Jews in Israel aren't real Jews, but fake Jews named Khazars.

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 08:51 AM
reply to post by bluemirage5

I don't talk BS on ATS and some of you should know that by now.....

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posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Prove me wrong....which you can't

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