What would the damage be? lol
of the top of my head if fugure and this is a quote "Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy
rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils."
According to a theory by Elizabeth K. Gardner of Purdue University, the earthquake in 1811 along the New Madrid Fault occurred because of built up
pressure that was released by the erosion event from the Mississippi River, and that there is no new build up of pressure. Written in 2010. See here:
So by her words there is no significant pressure left to cause earthquakes. Does this just bring it back to fracting?
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I tried to go to sleep early. I couldn't. I had Anmarie's shale driveway running around in my head. Why was her description of her dry crumbly stone
driveway now a vision in my brain? Yes, shale is brittle, and pourous.
Fracking. What the heck is that again? I've only watch the videos hundreds of times and read about it another hundred times. It's not like I don't
know, so why do I have to sit through the insturctional video in my head.
Fracking fractures the shale and the gas migrates. Add water pressure to create tiny earthquakes and you get more gas migrating. Frack the well
several times until you get all the gas to migrate out. Then what? Well, that's the point. They are disposing of the waste water in the old wells. The
injection causes the earthquakes. But how?
I thought that is was the micro-quakes from the fracking causing faults to slip. Or the water may lubricate faults. The pressure induced micro-quakes
are also a factor. And so are the pressure increases from the injection disposal. These all are in the equation. But the key is the shale itself. And
the sandy strada.
Remember since they are using the old spent wells, these shales would be lacking the gas. It migrated out the well. So that leaves pockets. The shale
is still porous. Under the great weight above, I'm sure the geologist believe that the layer would be compressed and the vacant pores collapsed. This
is probably the case.
But that's not the end of the story. They don't just leave the shale to sit and be happy to panake back into a stable strada. They come back and pump
it full of waste water. So you have a porous shale that is now being blasted by high pressure water. What's going to happen? The water will be
absorbed. And since it's under tremendous pressure, the ground will swell. Like adding water to a sponge, or one of those dinosaur toys you kids make
you buy that when you add water it's suppose to grow tenfold. The shale is swelling. It's expanded past the point before the gas drilling. And if the
shale strada reaches a saturation point, the water will force its way into other stradas, and since in Arkansas's case it's sandy, this is also porous
and will swell.
There you go. All thank's to Anmarie's driveway and all those educational materials provide by the Natural Gas Producer's Geologists. It's kinda
obvious when you put the whole process in question and see the entire sequence of events.
Since this waste-water would swell the strada and soils above, it would also be forcing pockets of methane to the surface. This happens naturally as
well. But that's not the case here. The methane that is pushed to the surface can rupture. One rupture was in the river near Ozark and killed 100 000
drum. The other rupture happened under a roost of blackbirds and starlings. The rushing gas made a noise like a demon snake erupting from the bowels
of the earth. The birds panicked and took flight. They died from the injuries they sustained during this emergency migration. The birds fled to other
states where some died from exhaustion and their injuries during the frenzy.
The pieces are all there. And I followed Sherlock Holme's method. You have your culprit. Now go and get 'em.
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This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.
Sunday, February 20, 2011 at 07:04:00 UTC
Sunday, February 20, 2011 at 01:04:00 AM at epicenter
4.9 km (3.0 miles)
2 km (2 miles) E (100°) from Greenbrier, AR
9 km (5 miles) ENE (72°) from Wooster, AR
11 km (7 miles) NW (315°) from Holland, AR
17 km (11 miles) NNE (28°) from Conway, AR
54 km (34 miles) N (357°) from Little Rock, AR
423 km (263 miles) SSW (207°) from St. Louis, MO
horizontal +/- 8.7 km (5.4 miles); depth +/- 0.3 km (0.2 miles)
NST= 29, Nph= 44, Dmin=10 km, Rmss=0.98 sec, Gp= 47°,
M-type="Nuttli" surface wave magnitude (mbLg), Version=4
U.S. Geological Survey, National Earthquake Information Center:
World Data Center for Seismology, Denver
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Well above the horizon, not too certain if it has passed zenith however. I thought things had quieted down for a while now and it seems as though they
keep occasionally popping up. The most recent quake is also tied for 2nd shallowest; they range from 4.3 km down to 7.4 km down. I'm not certain if
that correlates to anything, but it just jumped out at me so I thought I would make mention of it.
don't know if this helps or not... but according to my fancy iphone app the moon is in the southern part of the sky its traveled about 55% of its
path across the night sky... hope it helps?
also at about 2:30am ish here in Southeast Kentucky... i noticed that the floor registry (vent) in my living room made a noise like it moved... it
makes a noise when you walk across it or when the air kicks on... but no one walked across it... nor did the air kick on... but i will note... nothing
else in my trailer shook... but it kinda made me think...
Glad the driveway helped your thinking out - Friends working together. Now, not to keep you from loosing any more sleep you have to look at an
additional side of it. The stone breaks down, add water and it swells but that water/moisture will evaporate. Add more friction, fracking and you
get dust then add some more water by means of rain or what have you which will wash away the dust and then you will have a major voids underground (as
not every piece will be broken)(The driveways after after wear and tear from vehicles and the elements are back down as if the shale wasn't put down
at all in no time - except for the harder pieces which didn't break up).
There is debate on if the New Madrid Fault is locked or settled - either way and especially if it is Lock (I myselft tend to believe the fault line is
actually a plate line - funny how we came up with that in your corner and now is being widely talked about - oh no, They don't pay attention to us
here) anyway - either ways the activity we are now seeing will effect the "line" one way or another in a major way. At the very, very least, the
folks in the surrounding areas of the fracture zone will have lake front property. - at the very, very least and I hope that it stops now and that is
all that will become of it. But ya know, we know better than that.
OMG no wonder the Moon affects the earthquakes - it is so close and so big. I did not know it came that close at Perigee ( )
I see things have been quieter for the past few hours. (There that has done it!)
I never mentioned this last night but I have added TA.X40 to my signature which is around 60 miles from Guy so now by comparing the two seismos you
can see immediately if a quake is local or further away and from that get an idea of size.
Yes this theory about the stress being residual would then leave you with fracking as the cause. Problem is that as with everything in the black art
of Geology the priesthood often has disagreements. Whilst most adhere to the mainstream "Church of Plate Tectonics of The Geologists" some are
adherents of the "Church of Surge Tectonics of The Geologists" and even fewer (a sort of outcast sect) belong to the "Church of Expanding Earth of
Even within each individual persuasion there are disagreements which is why generally it is not possible to trust what the Geologists say as they
don't know and 90% of it is guesswork. Ask then what a rock is and they can tell you. Ask them what is going on inside the earth and most of the time
they can't, at least not with 100% certainty. If someone says "trust me I am a geologist" then don't!
In the case of the stress still in the system this article, if correct, would indicate that there should be no 'big one' in the future, but then you
take a look at the Farallon plate theory (see the reference list) and that negates this as it would mean there is still subduction going on and thus
stress can build up.
The reason for the 'no stress' theory is basically because there is only around 1mm of annual movement they say but since I have not found the
actual GPS data yet I can't say if that is apparently correct or not.
In my opinion neither of these theories adequately describes the situation at Guy. Subduction stress is more likely to be over a larger area (not
always the case) and thus I would be looking for a local cause, either some particular fault or feature or something like hydraulic fracturing.
As pointed out by Anmarie and Robin, and myself, shale is loose crumbly stuff when exposed to a void - i.e. is not restricted by the weight of
material above it. Either way Robin's description of the soaking of the shale with water and the effects of that is for the most part true enough. It
cannot be a good thing to do to pump water at high pressure into the system.
Kathy described the sensation of the quakes as rolling, and BobAtHome said - like a water bed. Yes, good descriptions I think. Another poster has made
the comment that in the general area there are underground streams. That cannot be a good addition to the mix.
If I had the time and money I would be over there investigating this in person, on the ground so to speak. The Internet is not the best place to
research this and it is often difficult to separate truth from fiction or fact from urban legend.
Like Robin, at least in his current mode, I believe this to be the consequence of high pressure injection. This is likely from disposal but this is
the same I believe as fracking. Pumping chemicals into the ground is not good anyway,
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