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Shock poll: 'Birthers' rule-Astonishing number of citizens don't believe president's story!

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posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
So seven out of ten GOP voters probably have trouble walking and breathing at the same time?

*Step* in, *Step* out, *Step* in, *step* out.

Still three in ten have some notion of how reality works. That's awesome. maybe in 20 or 30 years, the Republicans will be a national party again at that rate!


Seven in ten partisan Democrats still believe in Lennon's, Hitler's, Castro's and Islam's deadly and oppressive nightmare is Utopia. Researchers say it is due a stunted child development where the adult lives his life seeking to be punished, led and fed by a strong and stern father figure.

Another strange developmental issue for partisan democrats is the propensity to join a herd in group think or group chants and slogans of extreme adoration or extreme hate.

O Baaaaaaa ma! O Baaaaaaaa ma! O Baaaaaaa ma! Hope n Change! Hope n Change! Hope n Change! Everybody is stupid except us! Everybody's stupid except us! Everybody's stupid except us!

However, there is hope for the partisan Democrats who manage to suspect that mass murder, head chopping and mass poverty may not be the best hope for change. Maybe one day they will form a viable political party.




posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 08:08 AM
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Actually, you are pretty much correct. Even the Aboriginals and Maoris were not the first to inhabit their land either.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 08:40 AM
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posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 09:36 AM
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Historically, "hope" and "change" for democrats, liberals, socialists, communists and "progressives" have actually meant that "I hope we are able to quickly murder all of our political opposition, and change them all into corpses buried in mass graves."





posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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What is most interesting about the obama story is the (likely accurate) notion that he was hand-picked, groomed, trained and vetted by the CIA since he was an adolescent.


I can go a long way with things but I can't go that far.

I believe to say what you wrote that Bill Aryers, Rev, Wright, Raum, Axlerod and on and on and on would have to be directly involved or even if not, would know themselves by now or had choosen to ignore the issue.

No, Obama is what Obama is. A radical who worked his way through the system and made it to where he is. If this whole Birther thing is correct and he is not techincally eligable I don't think there will be riots in the streets etc. I think it would be handle professionally: There has been a mistake Sir-you are not able to be the President-as of this moment you are officially not the POTUS-V.P Biden has now assumed the role to President.

Thank You for your service. We did confirm though that you may be an elected official from your home state-if the public seems you fit for service. Take Care and God Bless. (of Allah-because it this Birther thing is true.... who knows about that whole mess.

Now, if he does what the Mayor of Harrisburg PA did on Monday of this week when people were demostrating outside her offices-calling for her to resign...

Mayor Linda Thompson (left w/ thumbs activated)-Harrisburg PA 2/14/2011-as she looked down upon the protestors/demostrators

There would be problems in the streets-fast. make Egypt look like Kindergarder-IMO.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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I know...the story just seems too cool and far-out in a spy novel sense to buy into...

however, there is a bunch of data and apparently well written and documented retrospectives that support the notion that barack obama AND his immediate family were CIA assets.


President Obama’s own work in 1983 for Business International Corporation, a CIA front that conducted seminars with the world’s most powerful leaders and used journalists as agents abroad, dovetails with CIA espionage activities conducted by his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham in 1960s post-coup Indonesia on behalf of a number of CIA front operations, including the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and the Ford Foundation. Dunham met and married Lolo Soetoro, Obama’s stepfather, at the East-West Center in 1965. Soetoro was recalled to Indonesia in 1965 to serve as a senior army officer and assist General Suharto and the CIA in the bloody overthrow of President Sukarno.


Some of the stuff out there goes pretty far "through the looking glass"...


There is also the curious nature of President Obama’s Social Security Number, issued in Connecticut, a state where there is no other evidence of his ever being a resident. Adding to the mystery is a New York City address for a “male” named Stanley Ann Dunham, 235 E. 40th St Apt 8F, New York NY 10016-1747. The address is a few blocks away from the address of the Ford Foundation. Ann Dunham did work briefly in New York for the Ford Foundation.


The link to the writings that best sum up all of this stuff is here...

Obama's CIA provenance

You gotta scroll about halfway or so down the page to see the article.

fun stuff!




posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by MMPI2
The link to the writings that best sum up all of this stuff is here...

Obama's CIA provenance

You gotta scroll about halfway or so down the page to see the article.

fun stuff!



Wow, good stuff! Thanks for posting, I hadn't seen some of this.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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from an admitted "agnostic":Shocking?
Stunning?
Unbelievable?
I think not...like the bard said:"There's something fishy in Denmark!

(Nobody seems to be swaying anybody) that's all...



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 03:04 AM
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Thank you. I haven't seen this CIA link stuff before. I'll check it out.

But, before doing that-I enter that zone of thinking with this idea of the CIA.

Is Obama the best they could do for Petes Sake? Seriously? If so, it was a waste of money.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by anon72
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Thank you. I haven't seen this CIA link stuff before. I'll check it out.

But, before doing that-I enter that zone of thinking with this idea of the CIA.

Is Obama the best they could do for Petes Sake? Seriously? If so, it was a waste of money.



Oh, I dunno about that. He is certainly being an excellent puppet and doing his best it would seem, to cause harm to the country. Seems to me they did a damned good job, in fact.

He says one thing, and does another, his actions speak louder than his words - yet people still only listen and refuse to look.

Birth certificate or not, he can never achieve Naturally Born Citizen, as his father was a British subject. Once the election time comes, and someone with "standing" can make it into court, this will become glaringly obvious.

The *only* reason anyone refuses to hear this now is because it would cause a Constitutional Crisis, the likes of which have never been seen before. Like you said, it would make Egypt look like kindergarten.

One of the main points of the Birther argument has always been that if someone managed to get their hands on the evidence, some real proof of any of this, that it could be used to blackmail Obama. Hindsight is 20/20, isn't it? We won't know what we don't know till it's over.

They keep using standing as an excuse. That excuse went away when the Republicans took back control of the house. In the next election, if they get the Senate, it's all over but the shouting and gnashing of teeth. He already will not be on the ballot most likely in quite a few states, as it is.

If Dems had not been in control, you could guarantee that this issue would have been investigated by congress long ago, and never allowed to get this far. The Republicans never had the power to raise the question, let alone to do anything meaningful, because the Dems would have quashed it, just as they have been, so why bother until they get some control? They had no choice but to wait.

Tick, tock.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by anon72
This one just showed up on Drudges page (Top row, right side).

I'll telling you, this thing is growing, not going away.

I think Obama better come up with a better way of handling this.

Regardless of the people political affilations, they are still voters and he will need everyone (vote) he can get-if he runs.

He didn't win with just Dem votes (with Independents).



He can't "clear it up." All he can do is try and shout down those who question his hidden past as he and his minions have done so far.

He needs to release his brith certificate, social security information (He's been using other pepole's social security numbers), University records, past political records and medical records like all Presidents do. He is hiding everything about his past and the media permitted him to do this because they wanted "the first balck President" and to be able to create a messiah myth annoiting him without messy facts. He's not above the law and Americans have the right to know their president's history; no matter their party affiliation.

By the way. There have been other surveys that show a good size percentage of Democrats and Independents question his constitutional qualification for President, too.
edit on 17-2-2011 by sara123123 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by MMPI2
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Historically, "hope" and "change" for democrats, liberals, socialists, communists and "progressives" have actually meant that "I hope we are able to quickly murder all of our political opposition, and change them all into corpses buried in mass graves."




Obamacare will go a long way to accomplishing that. The formula deciding who gets care and who is left to die involves one's value to the collective, economically.

The older ones who still understand the constitution and the American culture that evolved from it and who happen to also be over 90% white, the radical Left's major social and political opposition, gets the axe.



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