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To Talk With Aliens, Learn to Speak With Dolphins

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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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The Kepler Space Telescope announced a new bonanza of distant planets this month, reconfirming that solar systems, some possibly hosting life, are common in the universe.

So if humanity someday arrives at an extraterrestrial cocktail party, will we be ready to mingle? At the Wild Dolphin Project in Jupiter, Florida, researchers train for contact by trying to talk with dolphins.

Behavioral biologist Denise Herzing started studying free-ranging spotted dolphins in the Bahamas more than two decades ago. Over the years, she noticed some dolphins seeking human company, seemingly out of curiosity.


See where this is going...


Some tantalizing studies even suggest dolphins share their own language (see sidebar, “Easier Language Through Math”). All are qualities we’d hope to see in an alien, and no daydream of contact is complete without some attempt at communication. Yet with dolphins, our attempts have involved teaching them to speak our language, rather than meeting in the middle.

Herzing created an open-ended framework for communication, using sounds, symbols and props to interact with the dolphins. The goal was to create a shared, primitive language that would allow dolphins and humans to ask for props, such as balls or scarves.

Divers demonstrated the system by pressing keys on a large submerged keyboard. Other humans would throw them the corresponding prop. In addition to being labeled with a symbol, each key was paired with a whistle that dolphins could mimic. A dolphin could ask for a toy either by pushing the key with her nose, or whistling.

Herzing’s study is the first of its kind. No one has tried to establish two-way communication in the wild.


Although I would like to ASSume that aliens could speak our language, my assumption is probably wrong.
This is a fairly good idea that may just be beneficial one day. There is also no harm in trying to cover al the bases... just in case.


Humans also signal their interest in someone with eye contact and similar body language. Perhaps these are universal — and extraterrestrial — signs of good manners.

Before we hope to understand extraterrestrials, then, perhaps we should practice with smart animals right here on Earth. Astronomer Laurance Doyle of the SETI Institute was struck by this thought at a recent conference.

“From the way the presenter was speaking, I thought he was going to announce that he had found a signal of extraterrestrial intelligence,” Doyle said. “We’ve been waiting for this for years, but I thought, ‘We’re not ready!’ We can’t even speak to the intelligent animals on Earth.”


I actually had to laugh out loud at this last statement. I go back and forth on if we are "ready". The fact that aliens exist is spreading really far and wide it seems. Maybe we can learn something from this. What do you guys think?

You can read more here...
www.wired.com...
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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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Whether we're going to be talking with aliens or not, this is pretty interesting. Imagine humans were actually able to learn how to communicate with dolphins? Thanks for the share, pretty mind blowing



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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you can do the same thing with a dog. but that doesn't mean the dog is capable of independent thought and you can ask it it's opinion of ww2 and the rise of national socialism.



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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Great Post, I just emailed a friend in the UK and we were talking about dolphins today. A friend of mine that worked at NASA told me years ago that Dolphins did not evolve here on Earth. That someone or somthing brought them here and also Sperm Whales. They are the only sea life that works for the US Navy, and it use to be classified, but the sonar used on Navy ships was learned from Dolphins. They are ET"s and I bet they have a lot to tell use. There use to be a place in the Mediterrain where you could have you baby born underwater with the Dolphins, and they would play with the baby before it took its first breath.



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 10:59 PM
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Very interesting post! Star for that. I will have to delve into this dolphin thing a bit further after your comments. They do seem to be super intelligent from things I have read. I would be fully open to the idea that they could be other worldy creatures. After all, if we believe in aliens I suppose we can believe that they had/have animals/pets as well.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by SpreadLoveNotHate
Whether we're going to be talking with aliens or not, this is pretty interesting. Imagine humans were actually able to learn how to communicate with dolphins? Thanks for the share, pretty mind blowing


Who knows, maybe the dolphins are more intelligent than us and the aliens! Just joking, but thaks for the info, good stuff.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 05:52 AM
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Eeek Eeeek Eeeek Eeeek!!

I already speak dolphin. I'm far more advanced than most of you people.

I also speak monkey and a little Elephant.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 06:04 AM
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I have read that the Russians were and probably are still doing research into pregnant woman spending time in pools with dolphins from early on in the pregnancy and that waterbirths were then conducted, the mother being in a pool of water separate from the dolphins but with just a sheet of glass between them, the babies, apparently, are considered to be almost "super intelligent"



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 06:08 AM
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There are so many different methods of communication.

Clicking, howling, and sometimes you dont even need to be vocal to communicate, you can communicate a lot just by using facial expressions.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 06:57 AM
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Weird. I am way behind on all dolphin knowledge it seems. You see them everywhere as far as on clothes, tattoos, screensavers, jewelery, etc. Lots of folks seem to be drawn to them.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 07:01 AM
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If I ever get married I would hope to have chosen a wife that was in the same mindset as myself re: waterbirth/dolphns etc. It can't harm and it seems it can help. Dolphins to me are magical, not in the Merlin sense, just they are so special, we need to look after them and treat them with respect!



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 07:05 AM
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Agreed! I can attest that my mom could give me that *look* that said "Stop now if you want to survive".


Science has spent tons of time and money studying many ways to communicate, but sometimes a *look* speaks volumes more than any one word.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 07:08 AM
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Interesting post. I have heard the theory before that dolphins were of ET origin, and that if alien life forms ever arrive on this planet that it should be the dolphins they communicate with because their "language" is so much more complex than our own.

Dolphins have always fascinated me just for the simple fact that they not only enjoy, but almost crave it seems, interactions with humans. While communication is 10% verbal and 90% body language, it will be interesting to see if we are able to develop some sort of understanding of their language and vice versa. They are truly beautiful and amazing creatures and we could learn a lot from them I believe.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 09:05 AM
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If dolphins are of ET origens then ET must be dumb as hell since dolphins have been shown to be no smarter than the avg. 5 year old human child, sure there smart but not any smarter than a good dog so lets not get carried away with the bunk.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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Humans also signal their interest in someone with eye contact and similar body language. Perhaps these are universal — and extraterrestrial — signs of good manners.

The answer to this, we already know, is "No." Body language is not at all universal. Extensive studies have been done and we've found that even our closest relatives in the animal kingdom: chimps, gorillas and orangutans often have trouble understanding our intentions when we signal them with human body language. There are, however, some cues that all primates understand such as eye-contact being seen as a challenge. But many other things, like pointing (which human babies understand without having to be taught) are not understood by apes.

Interestingly, dogs DO understand a lot of human body language instinctually. They have been so connected with humans for so many thousands of years, they have learned at the level of instinct what we mean when point, other bodily expressions or when we use certain tones of voice with them. They understand human behavior better than our closest genetic relatives do. But this isn't a natural behavior on their part. Wolves, who we bread dogs from, do not understand our body language. They do not have the same instincts for that sort of thing that dogs do.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 09:49 AM
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Since this is a hypothetical "alien dolphin" situation, I would assume dolphins may be to Aliens what dogs and cats are to us.

No one is getting carried away and claiming that dolphins are the *new* reptilians. We guage their thought processes as that of a child, but how do we actually know how smart any animal is? The dolphins could be the smartest animal in the entire galaxy and WE are too simple to understand them. Just a thought...

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posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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Next up, my cat will be learning English.

Very interesting thread! S&F



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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nice thread.

Dolphins are amazing creatures and maybe a symbol of how humanity has all but lost most of it's communication faculties.

There are interesting psi experiments and things that helps tune for communication on a more universal level.

Aliens in my experience, and are generally reportedly able to communicate non verbally using a form of 'telepathy', surely this has to be some universal language.

This is an area I have many years experience in and did some controlled experiments with psi, involving co-ordinates in the '90's until every time I did some experiments I was immediately followed by the police, until I stopped. Interestingly, a lot of the results were co-ordinates based in the then USSR, and a lot of the information brought attention from those involved in MKUltra, and into areas various governments are involved in, it got a bit heavy for my comfortable living, liking my freedom and all that so scaled it down a bit, but sometimes still do the experiments, always interesting!.

There's some good reading, linking a lot of prominent gov types and scientists to a lot of projects on this link:

psi etc
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posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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my cat was a very intelligent Norwegian Forest cat who used to 'talk', in meowing obviously, but extended meow sounds for varying things, sometimes it sounded like actual words. Awesome cat!



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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this reminds me of one of carl sagan's episodes where he talks about first being able to understand whales as a good intermediate step to appreciating and understanding ets.



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