reply to post by 2manyquestions
Add me to the list of those saying thank you for sharing your experience... and wish to add that you are not alone in it.
My journey has had similar crossing paths, including remarkably similar visualizations. I've not had a standard meditative and long lasting experience
as yours, however I'm starting to realize that's not part of my... erm... challenge around these parts and time.
When I was a teenager and doing things my parents disapproved of, I had one behavior that resulted in me experiencing the infinite and never ending...
it's hard to describe but collapsing in on yourself only to find yourself fully expanded again past the zero time/space point. More recently I've had
the view of the infinite monitors/faces... and interestingly enough the monitors with faces themselves made up an ever increasing fractal of faces
made up of faces. They were all evenly spaced at a micro-level, but at the bigger scales they took on my variation and variety. It was interesting
because it was a paradox in a way, where as you went up the scale and there were fewer and fewer faces... there was more variety.
However I know that were I to zoom in on one of the individual tiny faces, I would just find it is made up of more faces and of course has the same
pattern going down, while still being a completely unique pattern of identical yet infinitely varied faces. It was stunningly beautiful.
My journey seems to be getting the views into these truths mostly in a waking seeing the world state. Which sometimes is tough for me to balance
because I realize that in a way... that is an incredible gift. To be able to experience, understand, and even in some ways communicate with the mind
you were communicating with... but while standing in line waiting to mail something. It is a challenge though because it means that it's harder to get
that sense of... "OH... well now I'm damn certain". The message I keep getting is "This I learns differently", but not as an english statement... just
the repeated "know thyself" response I get when I contemplate the experiences. Whenever I appreciate it... it opens up and makes for some astounding
experiences. When I wish I were different... well it still makes for some astounding experiences, but they are generally the "Oh... yeah... forgot who
I was for a moment" way. Meaning a nice kick in the rear.
Your summation is one of the most concise and clear ones I've come across... thank you again.
Oh... regarding the different views: Tao can only communicate to us via the images and information we have within our own limited experiences thus far
(relative to everything, heh). So when it wants to "show you its face"... it will do it via a form that we recognize. Were it to do this to a human
species with three eyes, I am pretty sure it would have three eyes. It simply sends the pure thought/feeling of the intent, and we interpret through
our own filters into an image/form we can recognized.
So what does that mean? The things we've seen are also just illusions to helps us understand ourself and communicate with ourself. If we were to see
from the vantage point of everything... I have a gut feeling it's actually a total void because everything is simply "known" and there is nothing to
do, not even visualization. Much like how a rotating circle has one infinitely small point at the center that doesn't actually ever move. This point
doesn't "exist"... yet it is the pivot the circle rotates around. Key... rotates *around*.
We are tiny circles within the giant circle and have our own center point (which is really just the original center point perceived through our
filters as a smaller center point)... and we can choose to rotate along with the bigger circle (and thus for each revolution it makes, we make two!...
accelerated evolution... flowing with the Tao... being like water). OR... we can choose to try to rotate the opposite direction. Now since all of
infinity is turning in one direction... anyone choosing to rotate the other direction will have a *perceived* sense of resistance or struggle.
This whole visualization takes on a lot of symbolism. For example... a small circle that from our vantage point doesn't "rotate"... but simply stays
pointing one direction while everything it is within is rotating... it is actually still being rotated... say to the right by the Infinity Circle,
even if it does nothing (thus why Buddhism and Taoism and others constantly say there is actually nothing to be done to be one with Tao). So in order
to compensate for the fact it is already being rotated (experiencing the flow of life in one direction)... it has to Struggle against the flow. This
can give the illusion of a "static" inner circle within the Infinite Circle... however it isn't actually static because it has to rotate itself left
to fight the natural rotation to the right.
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