Secrets of Our Existence and Universe Unraveled

reply to post by edog11


Wow this band seems really awesome. I'm a total music junkie ...this might just be my next fixation. On to check it out...TY

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
I've been in conflict with myself over whether I should share an experience I had a few weeks ago publicly, or keep it to myself. It was a difficult decision, but ultimately I came to the conclusion that I couldn't keep something like this to myself. I feel that it might offer people a different perspective of the world around us, maybe validate some outlooks on life, or simply entertain a few individuals who might find it inspirational.

Let's just say that a few weeks ago I found myself in a very deep meditative state. I felt myself slowly being separated from the room I was in. It was as if I had been a two-dimensional being all my life, and suddenly I had stepped off the screen into a more three-dimensional space. Maybe it would be better described as a fourth dimension? I don't know. The objects in the room were all the same, yet different. The way in which I became separated was very interesting to me. The room seemed to slightly pixelate in the process, as if it had not been "real" all along, as if it had been programed. As I was sinking deeper and deeper into the dark caverns of my consciousness, I found myself in an unexpected place. Although I could still see the room around me, I was looking at it through what I would describe as a spherical wall of screens. To help you imagine it, think of the way a bee or a fly might see the world through it's hundreds of eyes.

I was standing (though not physically) in a dark center of space surrounded by these "screens", and I saw the room. I got the sense that this was the "control center" of my mind. Time had completely stopped. Time was irrelevant. A minute or an hour could have passed, and I would not be able to tell you which was true. I was in the midst of eternity. I felt something else was with me. It wasn't physical, but I could feel it's presence close to me. I want to say that it was separate from me, but I suddenly realized that I was it, and it it was me. I asked it to tell me why I was shown this place. It told me that sometimes it needed to remind itself where it had come from and what it's purpose on earth was. It told me it had left small clues in our world to help us remember where it came from and why. Suddenly I was thrown even deeper into space only to find myself (my consciousness) floating above an incredible sight.

In the middle of dark space I witnessed something unexpected. I'm not quite sure how to even begin to describe it. I'm not sure words in the English language exist that would be adequate to describe what I saw. In fact while I was deep in it, I thought to myself "How the hell do I describe this when I'll want to explain to someone what I saw???" but I will try. I witnessed our universe being born and reborn over and over and over again at very high speeds. It wasn't like the "big bang", it was more like a loop that constantly turned inside out. It was like the shape of an inverse-rotating donut, or I suppose what some would describe as the symbol for "infinity". It was a giant, infinite fractal. This Universe was not what we believe it to be. It performed a function, and that function was to constantly generate new possibilities. Much like computers in our world (though extraordinarily/severely basic in comparison) the Universe was like a giant calculator/generator producing infinite possibilities through complex mathematical equations.

There was a strong presence/consciousness hanging over it. This "calculator/computer" Universe was the creation of this consciousness, and it overlooked every single little action with incredible yet effortless and tireless concentration. I suppose that this presence is the thing to which many people refer to as "God". I felt a oneness with this being. I finally understood that I was it, it was me, it was you, it was the grass, it was the rock, it was the ant, the bird, the wind, the sky, the earth,.... it was everything. It was love, hate, anger, sadness, it was us. Imagine yourself being cut into a quadrillion pieces, and those individual pieces being able to have experiences of their own, separate from the whole. According to my vision that's what our world is. The world and all of us, we are IT.

Since I realized what an important moment this was, I did not want to miss asking the big question. My question was "How did you come to be? Where did this start?" It replied in a form of exchanging a thought in my mind, and the answer was that it simply WAS. It just IS. It did not know why or how, in fact it did not care for why or how, it didn't feel the need to know why or how, it just WAS. Since we humans experience a "beginning" and an "end" on this earth via birth and death, it is very difficult for us to imagine something having no beginning and no end. It seems inconceivable, much like the idea of infinity, something without an end. We try to imagine it, but we struggle to come to terms with the fact that something may not have an end or a beginning. I can't say I felt satisfied by that answer for the reason I mentioned just now, but I accepted it. My next question was why we were here. Understanding came to me in the form of seeing. In a manner of speaking it split itself into an incomprehensible number of pieces in order to learn. It was like an enormous calculator producing new possibilities, just churning them out constantly without end. The purpose was to learn. It had an insatiable hunger for information.

While there, I came to understand a few things (assuming that what I have witnessed is true).

1.) It is all-knowing, all-powerful and ever-present, because it is us and we are it. It is not an old man deciding our fates, it is a consciousness that is inside all of us. We are God and God is us.

2.) It is both partial and impartial to our suffering, because it is experiencing this world through us. To make it easier to imagine, just picture being one of it's atoms. (Hmmm.... Adam/Atom ...

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3.) We are powerful and we have the capability to influence the world/reality around us. We are creators and engineers of this world, because we originated from the ultimate creator. Though we are stronger as a whole, we (the individuals) do posses some of this ability as a result of originating from IT.

4.) This "physical" world we live in is a mathematical illusion. To help you understand better, it's like an extremely intricate virtual reality program complete with physics assigned to our world, which we are forced to follow.

5.) In order to keep our experience as "real" and pure as possible, we CHOOSE to stay "blind" to our origins.

During my "outer space" experience my earth life seemed almost unreal, as if I had been playing a game for decades. I felt satisfied knowing this, because I realized what was truly important in life. There were things that I fretted over, and now I knew they were not important. I finally knew my purpose. My purpose was to have the experiences that I have, so that we as a whole would learn from it. You and I, we are one piece of a giant puzzle. As strange as it may seem, I actually began to miss my "virtual" life a little, and couldn't wait to return to it so that I could continue. I was told that it was best if I return and immerse myself back in this world, because if I didn't, it would be impossible for me to continue my mission. Since IT was me and I was IT, I knew that I had chosen to be here. I was slowly eased out of my meditation, the room came back, the pixels began to disappear as I "stepped" back into our three-dimensional world, time began to tick again, and the earth seemed like a real place once more. I was happy to be back, and I was completely blown away by what I had seen during my little adventure.

Ever since I've been trying to figure out how to put the whole thing into words, and whether I should tell people about it. I guess I finally found the courage. So, there you have it. Make of it what you will. Truth? Delusion? A little bit of both? You decide. My words are here for your consideration, entertainment, thought, opinion, or whatever else you choose to do with them. I'm not preaching by any means. I'm only offering my perspective of the world based on the experience I just shared.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I agreed with a lot of what you wrote. Even brought a tear to my eye. Also going to a bassnectar concert tonight so that will be an interesting addition. Namaste

Awesome! however it was not god. there is no god. its creation. creation itself brought this all into play. creation brought gravity which brought energy together and with a little help from time...we are all here and so is everything else.

and for the record OP. keep meditating like you did. as you do your brain will unlock more and more things you had no knowledge of being able to do or see. meditation is key. and most all people fail to realize that meditation connects us to the other side.

You've had a very wonderful experience. I guess you have reached a stage of enlightenment. I wish I was able to get to that point. Perhaps I don't meditate enough? Any suggestions? For the longest I've been trying to reach my true potential and while meditation is key to experiences like the one you had it's not always so simple.

Wow very insightful thread OP. Thank you so much for sharing. Keep us posted!

Well now. I hope to be able some time to repeat your vision to you in different words and different images with enough clarity to thrill you as your words and images has for me.

This is really interesting..
makes you think

nice description, thanks for sharing!

There are names for this experience in practically all religions and practices of spiritual nature....losing the ego, becoming conscious, seeing the light etc etc , all in all it's the first step to 'enlightenment', you have reached a point of realisation of Universal truths and infinite wisdom, a few paths are now open to you, remember sometimes everything might not be as it seems, hence the reason these experiences are at first brief and outstanding. The main point is to keep focus in a balanced chi way and to see the beauty in creation and let the secrets of the universe unfold in their natural order. There is a higher order, there is something greater in the Universe that contains ultimate energy, of which all is part, a being is never entirely at will of his/her own conscience, there are pathways and natural observances to be made to the higher and highest of energies. Religions use 'g*d' words for these energies, as these energies are far superior and all consuming and to which all life is part and subliminal to, greater than any name could behold.

Unraveling the secrets of the universe is nice play, but it seems as if the universe is not only eternal in time but also in space, which means, we will never get to the bottom of it all. So lets try to make our stay on earth a bit better in the meantime by unraveling the secret of how we can all live here together without constantly killing ourselfs...

Awesome thread. I remember Deepek Chopra talking on the tube one of my many sleepless nights and it had some similarity, but to be honest, you put it in much more graceful and more visual terms. I`m not going to bring my religion into this but I will say that I too believe that we are all connected and while we should be all working together to obtain and realize all that we are capable of, that there are forces trying there damndest to keep us divided and at war with each other. I applaud you for sharing your experience and hopefully, someday, our race will achieve true life.


Bill

reply to post by 2manyquestions


Good post OP. You had an involuntary OBE. Most but not all obe's are pleasant
and you hate to come back to this reality., Most of what you see is already locked into your mind from b4 and it is generating these images, whether they tell you about the origin of this or other universes is debatable. God has creayed us means that we are His creation and not creators or co creaters with God.

Originally posted by CarlitosAmsel
Unraveling the secrets of the universe is nice play, but it seems as if the universe is not only eternal in time but also in space, which means, we will never get to the bottom of it all. So lets try to make our stay on earth a bit better in the meantime by unraveling the secret of how we can all live here together without constantly killing ourselfs...

One way of doing that is maybe helping people realize that we're all one. If everyone treated each other as if we were brothers and sisters instead of strangers undeserving of our respect, then maybe the world would be a better place. If we could cooperate and help each other live, share our resources, then it might make life a little easier on all of us.

reply to post by 2manyquestions


the aim is not to stay here to learn,i think it's to be able to escape 3d,you glimpsed what you perceived to be god,i perceive it as the luciferien illusion of 3d, that you are part of it,we are all part of it,something was trying to convince you that it is real,and best go back and become part of it again,this helps hold the illusion in place,i believe you are right,we are stronger than what we think we are,but i think you would have benefited more if you stayed detached from your vision, fully aware that the 3d experience is an illusory deception conjured up through the thought process,which in turn is meant to disconnect us from reality,just simply become aware of what is transpiring, perfection and purity is what we are already.

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reply to post by LiftUpYourEyes


Ah the joys of fear based dogma in religionism... Not attacking you personally, it just reminded me of days gone by. God is love my friend not fear. Come out of fear and into the light and the love of God will fill your soul and you will fear no more.

"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, and love, and a sound mind."
II Timothy 1:7

reply to post by 2manyquestions


Thank you for shareing this experience... i believe what you experienced is called Nirvana... I have heard this is where some experience or even "meet" God... Most arn't ready for this experience because it creates the ultimate detachment from physical/material world. Some people apparently become suicidal because of it.

1.) It is all-knowing, all-powerful and ever-present, because it is us and we are it. It is not an old man deciding our fates, it is a consciousness that is inside all of us. We are God and God is us.

2.) It is both partial and impartial to our suffering, because it is experiencing this world through us. To make it easier to imagine, just picture being one of it's atoms. (Hmmm.... Adam/Atom ... )

3.) We are powerful and we have the capability to influence the world/reality around us. We are creators and engineers of this world, because we originated from the ultimate creator. Though we are stronger as a whole, we (the individuals) do posses some of this ability as a result of originating from IT.

4.) This "physical" world we live in is a mathematical illusion. To help you understand better, it's like an extremely intricate virtual reality program complete with physics assigned to our world, which we are forced to follow.

5.) In order to keep our experience as "real" and pure as possible, we CHOOSE to stay "blind" to our origins.

this can be found in the bible if you look for it...

S&F for sure....

Interesting though were you a very religious person before this experience?

reply to post by Akragon


Thanks for reading! I can't say that I was highly religious before the experience. I had some ideas of my own and I do respect the beliefs of others, but I was never really attached to any religious belief. I was born into a Catholic family, but aside from my grandmother reading me the bible when I was a kid, my parents didn't force us to go to church or believe in any one particular thing. It was an open-minded household. I took everything with a grain of salt.

P.S. I definitely don't feel suicidal after the experience. Quite the opposite! I suppose it depends on the individual.

reply to post by LiftUpYourEyes


I appreciate your concern, but really there is no reason to fear for my soul. I watched part of one of the links. The videos are very, very long. I'm not sure I'd have the time to watch all of them. I won't argue with you or try to dissect the videos. I'm simply going to say; We should agree to disagree. It will be nearly impossible for either one of us to bend the other's belief.

Originally posted by exo87
'___''s a heck of a drug ain't it

The level of disrepect to posters on here is a disgrace at times

Originally posted by breadmaker99

Originally posted by exo87
'___''s a heck of a drug ain't it

The level of disrepect to posters on here is a disgrace at times

I didn't take that comment as disrespectful. I don't think it was meant to be, but I do appreciate your comment. ATS can be a bit turbulent at times and you can never tell from text what attitude a poster intended to present.