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many would differ this opinion, self included.
Second, Affirmative Action is not a "quota system"
These examples involve a quota system: the next person hired will be Black or there will be X number or percentage of women with tenure, etc. This is what a quota is all about.
According to dictionary.com, a quota is a required amount. One of the several definitions given was "A number or percentage, especially of people, constituting a required or targeted minimum: a system of quotas for hiring minority applicants. " (Italics in original.)
My simple question is why? Where does this imbalance occur in the hiring process? Is there really an equal opportunity chance of getting hired for a state or govt job if you are say a Caucasian, and not part of a minority?
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
To reiterate without putting it quite so... bluntly.
Have you applied for any of these government jobs? Further, have you conducted a survey of all governmental offices in your area to reach your conclusion, or is this anecdotal? 'Cause if we're going anecdotal, I can tell you that the only nonwhites I've ever seen at the local DMV are all taking numbers rather than answering them.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFoxSecond, Affirmative Action is not a "quota system". A business sets a yearly goal for hires of qualified minorities / women, based on demographics of the local hiring pool. It is taken on good faith that they seek such hires. If they fail to meet that goal... nothing happens. No legal or puntative action is taken (though as was pointed out on another of these whack-a-mole "butthurt white guy" threads, government contracts favor those who meet their set goals.) Rather the goal is reset for the next year and it's once again taken in good faith that the business seeks to fulfill its goal.
I just think, personally, that they should understand how their own racism is perpetuating the problem. Dont just assume that all minorities are a burden being forced on you. Take the time to hire qualified people, no matter what their color or gender. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy if you just hire based on skin color. If they werent SOOOOO certain that minorities were incapable of being valuable contributors, they would not hire just the first person who satisfied the criteria who walked in the door, and then use that persons incompetence to justify their belief that "see? this is why we shouldnt have to hire minorities."
Now on to government employment; why do you think that the question of race even appears on the application? It should be completely irrelevant to the question of employment along with age and religion or sexual preference.
Originally posted by GeminiSky
Why do I need luck with this thread? Because Im one of the few who do not care about being "politically correct" and tell it like it is?
I for one am tired of people having to tip-toe around any subject that discusses issues such as this, just because we are so conditioned in regards to so called "racism" that things like this never get discussed because the sheeple are too afraid of being called racist. (Even if there is nothing racist about it)
Originally posted by Honor93
And to others ... with regard to the opinion that blacks, specifically, endure a greater hardship in the workforce ... i completely disagree. Most of the non-working blacks i know personally, choose such. Unfortunately, none of the stats take that into consideration.
From the 80s forward, many of the young black folk were recruited by thugs and became thugs and this is all they know. And many of them, as adults, choose to be societal leeches.
why should we continue to give them game pieces?
The origin and labeling of the “so called” Caucasian, Negroid, and Mongoloid Races by 19th Century scientists, started racial groupings based on skin color by naturalists and anthropologists like Johann F. Blumenbach, JA Gobineau and HS Chamberlain....
"All human beings are 99.99% the same at the DNA level and the remaining 0.1% genetic variation that exist seldom segregate in a manner that confirms to the racial boundaries constructed by social political means.”
The albinism syndrome shows parallels with sickle cell anemia....
About one in 35 southern African blacks is a carrier of an albinism mutation, a surprisingly high prevalence for a genetic disorder where the homozygote is at a survival disadvantage.
...“We propose that the ... population that survived the last glaciations in southwestern Eurasia was largely a group of albinoids who were better adapted to the ecology than their darker relatives who had originally colonized the area. These latter were gradually replaced by albinoids, though small groups of African aboriginal types long persisted on the North Atlantic seaboard because of the availability of Vitamin-D-rich salt-water fish. This “goodness-of-fit” of the albinoids in this northern environment was due to the more efficient Vitamin D production and utilization in the whitened skin in these sunlight-deficient latitudes and better cold resistance.... www.stewartsynopsis.com...