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Ron Paul - The Illuminati Sleeper

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posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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reply to post by ManchurianDisclosure
 

very informative and insightful for a member
who just joined today. Sounds like, you've
been doing your homework.
star 4 u




posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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I will not discuss the contents
of Masonic Oaths in a public forum.
That would be breaking an oath to do so.


But yet you post a secret handshake thus relieving RP as a mason? You have broken your oaths by revealing secrets:




I think you are full of it, and posing as a mason.

I also think that you have lost nearly all credibility with the ATS community since now you have exposed yourself as a fraud.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by kroms33
But yet you post a secret handshake thus relieving RP as a mason? You have broken your oaths by revealing secrets:

I think you are full of it, and posing as a mason.

I also think that you have lost nearly all credibility with the ATS community since now you have exposed yourself as a fraud.

dude, give it a rest.
once again this thread
is not about me.
stay on topic please.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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How is it NOT on topic to discuss the contents of what YOU wrote? How is it NOT on topic to discuss your credibility in your assertions?

Suddenly - you have no answers. Ron Paul is not a Free Mason, and if he is - he would have never been sold down the river by one of his own.

Everything that I wrote (including this post) has been ON topic, you are just backed into a corner and can not explain or justify your accusations.

Tell you what - call in a moderator and see how off topic my posts are, or should I do it?

You accuse RP of being a Mason - you back it up by Masonic secrets thus exposing yourself NOT to be a Mason... How is what I wrote OFF TOPIC?



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by kroms33
Ron Paul is not a Free Mason,

finally, something on topic !!!

and your proof for Ron NOT being a Mason
would be .... what ???

links please, thanks



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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If you would have included the rest of the sentence in my above post, you would have answered your own question - thus again proving that you are a fraud.



Ron Paul is not a Free Mason, and if he is - he would have never been sold down the river by one of his own.


You state that you are a free mason, but yet you sell out one of your own by exposing free mason secret hand shakes... You are discredited, and not a viable source of information. Every post that you reply to of mine verifies how fraudulent you are.

Don't try to redeem yourself by trying to call me out on being ON or OFF topic - I have been ON topic from the beginning. What a crude way of trying to divert peoples attention. Who will fall for it?

edit on 2/16/2011 by kroms33 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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but it is true that Communists (and the ONE WORLD GOVT proponents are mostly communists even tho many are wealthy) use what are called "useful idiots."


Actually they are not Communists although like the Communists they are "Collectivists" what they are is Socialist Fabians. (It is nice to know WHO they actual enemy is)

Communist are the fast crude revolutionary types. The Fabians have pretty much the same ultimate goal but they are into stealth. Their symbols are the tortoise for slow and wolf in a sheepskin for treachery. These are the people we are dealing with in the USA. People like Bill Clinton a Rhodes Scholar and Obama ( Ford Foundation). Changing society through education is one of the goals. The Rhodes Scholarship is used to pick and choose young men with the right attitude to train as future leaders. The Ford Foundation, Rockefeller foundations and the Carnegie Endowment Fund are other foundations doing the same.

The Fabian Socialist Window: www.awakeandarise.org...

Cecil Rhodes and the Fabian Society

British Fabian Society and Rhodes Scholarship Program
In the last century, members of the British Fabian Society, dynastic banking families in the City of London, financed the Communist takeover of Russia. Trotsky in his biography refers to some of the loans from these British financiers going back as far as 1907. By 1917 the major subsidies and funding for the Bolshevik Revolution were co-ordinated and arranged by Sir George Buchanan and Lord Alfred Milner. [no doubt using money from Cecil Rhodes' South African gold and diamond legacy - Ed] The Communist system in Russia was a "British experiment" designed ultimately to become the Fabian Socialist model for the British takeover of the World through the UN and EU. The British plan to takeover the World and bring in a "New World Order" began with the teachings of John Ruskin and Cecil Rhodes at Oxford University. Rhodes in one of his wills in 1877 left his vast fortune to Lord Nathan Rothschild as trustee to set up the Rhodes Scholarship Program at Oxford to indoctrinate promising young graduates for the purpose, and also establish a secret society [Royal Institute of International Affairs RIIA, which branched into the Round Table, the Bilderbergers, the CFR, the Trilateral, etc -- Ed] for leading business and banking leaders around the World who would work for the City to bring in their Socialist World government....



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by kroms33
Ron Paul is not a Free Mason,

finally, something on topic !!!

and your proof for Ron NOT being a Mason
would be .... what ???

links please, thanks



"Can you confirm whether Ron Paul is a mason please ?" my question to Augustus masonicus
His reply .
"His father was a Mason. I personally like Senator Paul, I find that I am inline with many of his views."

So a respected mason on ats doesnt seem to think so .
Network dude said to me when I asked him about blair being a mason , they wouldn't be able to hide it if blair was. It gets recorded as you well know boon .

So apart from a photo wheres Your proof ?



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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Good thread. I thought that also for a while. But I have actually spoken with Ron on a personal basis and I'd like to say that I don't believe this any longer. I too once figured him for the NWO sleeper agent saying all the right things that citizens would wish to hear and just kinda muddling thru the process in DC. and acting a little dopey in the process of it all. But I got to say, after talking with him I no longer believe that. I think he is the real deal and is my choice should he run.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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here's a video I found of Ron Paul speaking
at a John Birch Society Luncheon this past
August. JBS are the gatekeepers.
He says plainly at 40 secs in the video
that he has been involved with the JBS
for a long time.




There is, in fact, well-documented evidence that Congressman Paul was inducted into a Masonic fraternity in college

Ron Paul was initiated in the Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity at his alma mater, Gettysburg College, in Pennsylvania. The November 2007 issue of Lambda Chi Alpha’s publication, Cross & Crescent, proudly announced “Ron Paul's Presidential Bid.” Ron Paul was not only a member but a leader of Lambda Chi Alpha.

“Congressman Ron Paul (Gettysburg 1957) says the Fraternity provided him much fellowship but also supported him financially. He became house manager and was paid $9 a month, which paid for his rent. He then took the job of kitchen steward, which he says was a little more challenging... Paul also served as chapter secretary and was president of his pledge class.”


www.dailypaul.com...

just thought I would share



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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So what ? They sound like me .


It seeks to limit the powers of government and defends what it views as the original intention of the U.S. Constitution,
the UN's role in the Gulf War and President George H. W. Bush's call for a 'New World Order' appeared to many society members to validate their claims about a "One World Government" conspiracy

I agree so does that make me illuminati too ?



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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and here is the JBS endorsing Ron Paul's
Presidential Campaign in 2008.




posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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dude, give it up.
u don't have a leg to stand on.
It came directly from Ron Paul's
mouth that he has been involved with
JBS for a long time. And JBS is a Masonic
Organization.

I produced a pic of him giving a handshake.

I even told you where Ron was initiated
into Masonry and some of the positions
he held.

Like I said, u have nothing but ur opinion.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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1 You are not a mason anymore
2 what lodge was RP initiated in ?
3 Augustus tells me as far he knows RP is Not a mason
4 jb society ? so what as I already said
5 So what if RP is a mason are you saying All mason are Corrupt?

I will never give up boon , im fighting for freedom for all .



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Doomzilla
im fighting for freedom for all .

and do you think that I am not ???

Is truth not freedom ???



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
and do you think that I am not ???

Is truth not freedom ???


Truth based on speculation, rather than fact, may be freedom for an individual, but hardly for the greater good.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Juston
Truth based on speculation, rather than fact, may be freedom for an individual, but hardly for the greater good.

so maybe you can point out where in that
video of Ron Paul saying that he has been involved
with JBS for a long time which you consider to be the
speculative part?

And maybe you can point out how his 2 daughters
became Rainbow Girls without a daddy for a Mason?

Or am I missing something???



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Sorry, I was a Ron Paul supporter as well and I voted for him
as a write in candidate in 2008.

I guess what really got me questioning
Ron Paul's agenda was when he publicly
endorsed wikileaks. My faith in him went
downhill after that.

And then, I find this other stuff out and it
didn't look any better either.


So Ron Paul is Illuminati because he endorses Wikileaks? And Wikileaks is NWO because?

Well I'm not sure because your thread on Wikileaks referenced a bunch of blogs as its sources.

I've like some of your threads but ever since you started finding any "evidence" online to support your "claims" it really lost validity. And this Ron Paul thing is a giant stretch. I think in the realm of LOGIC this would be called a Weak Inductive Argument.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
so maybe you can point out where in that
video of Ron Paul saying that he has been involved
with JBS for a long time which you consider to be the
speculative part?


So according to you:

Ron Paul + JBS Association = Freemasonry / Illuminati Sleeper?

If that is what you mean, it's speculation right? Or can I pass this off as "truth" :

Jimmy Carter + UFO + A report filed with NICAP = ATS Member

Can I? Is that "truth" by association? Or is it being just a little bit too conspiracy minded.


Originally posted by boondock-saint
And maybe you can point out how his 2 daughters
became Rainbow Girls without a daddy for a Mason?

Or am I missing something???


Joining The International Order of the Rainbow for Girls

Did you research this? Or are you just making extraordinary claims?

Edit to add:

"Are Rainbow Girls part of the Shriners or the Masons? Yes and no. Originally the Rainbow Girls were created for Masonic daughters and their friends, but today any girl who is interested in joining Rainbow Girls is welcome."

From here





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posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Juston
Joining The International Order of the Rainbow for Girls

Did you research this? Or are you just making extraordinary claims?

"Are Rainbow Girls part of the Shriners or the Masons? Yes and no. Originally the Rainbow Girls were created for Masonic daughters and their friends, but today any girl who is interested in joining Rainbow Girls is welcome."

From here

lol, I can see you have no idea how the petition
process works. Maybe cuz they don't post that
on the web site.



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