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I am an Anarchist and I love everyone on this board Media says I am evil.

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posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by ANOK
You're not alone on ATS.

I consider myself a libertarian socialist.


I'm also a Libertarian Socialist




posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Experience a riot: right up close, perhaps in the middle of it. Let us know how long your affinity for anarchy persists.


Riots are chaos and violence, and as such have nothing to do with anarchism. You're illustrating the gross misconceptions most people have about the concept.



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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I disagree. It's the artificial scarcity of needed resources, a functional requirement of capitalism, that creates the majority of negative human behavior.

Most crime is a result of the imbalance in wealth, the rich poor divide. Those who have their needs satisfied are less likely to commit property crime. Part of capitalism is unemployment, in an anarchist society those who can work will.

A lot of other crimes come from a desire for power and control, our system teaches the desire for power and control as it benefits capitalism, but is not good for society as a whole. Those crimes would be reduced in a system that is based on equality rather then hierarchy.

Some crime will not change regardless of whether we have a State system or not.

The present capitalist system promotes competition, greed, and rampant individualism, Anarchism promotes cooperation, solidarity, and mutual aid. Anarchism can not free the people, no system can, the people must free themselves. It can not be forced, it has to be voluntary. But Anarchists believe it is the true nature of humans to organize this way, and without the hierarchical system we have now crime will be reduced because peoples needs would be more satisfied.

"Do you think that men become thieves and murderers without a reason". Errico Malatesta (Italian anarcho-communist 1853-1932).

For those who claim that without laws they would go around killing people, well do you really think we won't protect ourselves? Do you really think it takes a state system to stop you? All your doing is taking advantage of freedom, something we all claim to want, using your freedom to deny someone else theirs. If you truly want to be free then you have to respect other peoples freedom, otherwise you would not be welcome in any anarchist society, just like you wouldn't be in the present one.


edit on 2/18/2011 by ANOK because: typo



posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
I am an Anarchist and I love everyone on this board Media says I am evil. I would never hurt people for selfish motives. I just don't believe in centralized monopolistic authoritarian management bureaucracies. Am I wrong for having my opinion? Am I a terrorist for having my own opinion? I don't believe in social welfare or corporate welfare. I do believe in some socialist ideals(high income tax for high level of living,taxes that are agreed on by the community,no private ownership of vital infrastructures) just not hand outs and local democratically ran communities.

I don't hate anyone. I love David Rockefeller(even though he does evil its not him its a negative energy that is using him).I love everyone. How can you live with hatred for human life? I can't. God said its wrong to hate other humans.
So we shouldn't hate other humans. No matter what.

Why does the media keep smearing the public? Why do we keep believing trained manipulators/propagandists(sold-out/megacorp-news)? Why are they so afraid of us not agreeing with their model of "truth"?

Come on stop this FUD. We the American public are not monsters/evil/extremists for having our own unique opinions. Authoritarians are so determined to keep control of a fundamentally unstable system. Hey they are human just like us. Flawed.




There is a big difference between constitutionalism, responsible(Calvinist) capitalism and anarchy. Anarchist's= batsh*& crazy. It was a philosophy that advocated going back to the Jungle. Maybe you just fail to understand what Anarchy really is? Maybe your miss-describing yourself?



posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by ANOK
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A lot of other crimes come from a desire for power and control, our system teaches the desire for power and control as it benefits capitalism, but is not good for society as a whole. Those crimes would be reduced in a system that is based on equality rather then hierarchy.

Some crime will not change regardless of whether we have a State system or not.

The present capitalist system promotes competition, greed, and rampant individualism, Anarchism promotes cooperation, solidarity, and mutual aid. Anarchism can not free the people, no system can, the people must free themselves. It can not be forced, it has to be voluntary. But Anarchists believe it is the true nature of humans to organize this way, and without the hierarchical system we have now crime will be reduced because peoples needs would be more satisfied.

"Do you think that men become thieves and murderers without a reason". Errico Malatesta (Italian anarcho-communist 1853-1932).




edit on 2/18/2011 by ANOK because: typo


The last quote from the communist is very amusing when you look at the numbers the communists killed because they could. The one thing everyone always ignores is sociopaths(not surprising that pro-communist's ignore that mental illness as most sociopaths find comfort in communism, as long as the communist state is lead by sociopaths). These people are born without a conscience, and have a kind of internal "tick" that drives them to seek out positions of power.

As long as any type of society exist's that doesn't take the threat of sociopaths seriously, then that society is doomed to misery and suffering.



posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by korathin

The last quote from the communist is very amusing when you look at the numbers the communists killed because they could. The one thing everyone always ignores is sociopaths(not surprising that pro-communist's ignore that mental illness as most sociopaths find comfort in communism, as long as the communist state is lead by sociopaths). These people are born without a conscience, and have a kind of internal "tick" that drives them to seek out positions of power.

As long as any type of society exist's that doesn't take the threat of sociopaths seriously, then that society is doomed to misery and suffering.


What communists are you talking about?

If you mean Stalin or Lenin then I agree, but I and the people I'm quoting are not supporters of STATE communism which is as bad as any system can be.

Communism and socialism are economic systems, what you talk of is when people turn it into a political system with authority and hierarchy, the complete opposite of what communists/socialists really want. You see those doing the controlling and murdering are not real communist/socialists, they are just using those terms in order to fool the people. Your western government use those terms to demonize, in order to have you believe that their system is better for you, when in fact neither system was better for you. TPTB stole those terms from the working people of the world and use them against us. This is why I feel it is so important that people know the real meaning of those terms, not what the state controlled MSM tells us what they mean.

Sociopaths are a problem in any kind of society, we have plenty running around right now sending young men to war in order to further their agenda. There is nothing stopping a billionaire sociopath from using their wealth and position to influence world events to their benefit. They (capitalists in general not just sociopaths) do this by organizing and working together, something they do all they can to stop us from doing.

If you understood what socialism actually is then you would understand that it is a system whereby no sociopaths could be in a position to cause influence on anyone, unless you allowed it.




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