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Originally posted by dbrandt
To go to heaven and be with God for all eternity and see all of His creation you must accept Christ as Savior.
Originally posted by dbates
I think that this is the general belief of most Christians. Are there other circumstances where one can get into heaven? Possibly, but that path isn't laid out clearly, so it's best not to "wing it" and do your own thing. Of course there are those who died before Jesus was even born who are under different circumstances. The idea of Jesus being the only way comes from a quote by Jesus, and words by Peter and John.
John 14:6 "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. "
Acts 4:12 "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
I believe the quote from Matt 7:21-23 was a lesson about not just giving lip service.
Guy #1 - "I'm a Christian" *actions = rape, murder, stealing*
Guy #2 - "I'm a Christian" *actions = kind, caring, sharing*
Which one of these two is actually a follower of Jesus? That's the premise of Matt 7:21-23.
Originally posted by Raphael_UO
I read in another topic:
i]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Matt 7:21-23)
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Originally posted by dbrandt
Part of the will of God is that you come to Him by Jesus Christ. That verse is talking about people who tried to be saved by their good works. They didn't humble themselves and accept the fact that they were a sinner in need of a Savior. They did their own thing, even if it was good works. The thing is they were doing good works to be saved. That's not how you come to God. You enter by Christ and then develope a personal relationship with Him.
Originally posted by Raphael_UO
I read in another topic:
Originally posted by dbrandt
To go to heaven and be with God for all eternity and see all of His creation you must accept Christ as Savior.
I failed to find the truth in this statement.
While I have no problems accepting that Jesus died for the sins of all men and that those who accept Jesus as Savoir will be lead down the path to Heaven, humility will not allow me to say this is the only way.
So I sought to understand the truth in this matter. My studies were directed to Gospel of Matthew.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Matt 7:21-23)
Here are the words of Jesus, saying it is not those who says Jesus is Lord that will go to heaven, but those who do the will of God.
So I pondered what was the will of God. I found this answer also in the words of Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew.
Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. (Matthew 22:36-40)
So I ask Christians who would say something similiar to the original quote, "Why must one accept Christ as savior to go to heaven?"
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Originally posted by infovacume
Auctually that is not what it means. It is talking about those who Talk the talk , but do not walk the walk in a since. He is saying look you have to believe in your heart, because..... Technically anyone can do those things, god gives us all the ability, but to enter into heaven is to believe in your heart that Jesus was the son of God, hope that helps
[Edited on 18-7-2004 by infovacume]
Originally posted by Raphael_UO
The lesson is as it was taught. Simply, they failed to do the will of God.
Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. (Matthew 22:36-40)
This is the will of God. There are no commands greater.
The essence of this is Humility-- Humility to God and Humility to ones fellow men.
In Matt 7:21-23 their very words betray the pride in their hearts. They judge themselves worthy because they accept Jesus as Lord and do his works. It is not their place to judge.
This is taught numerous times. Even Jesus would not do this even though he, being one with the Father, could judge.
John 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
To go to heaven and be with God for all eternity and see all of His creation you must accept Christ as Savior.