I was at this meeting having to do with peace and all that right. We spilt into two different groups to do this excercise. (not actual aerobics or anything like that a learning thing. We get bacvk into the one big group to tell what we learned. And this lady says well we talked about how progressives and tea party people arand there state of mind. we took the side of the progressives well because were all ladies and were progressive. She went on to say that they wished they had a tea party perspective there.

So I appoarched the lady said well I remember you saying that you wished you had a tea party person well I will take that perspective. she said okay. I started by saying what is it that you don;t understand about tea partiers. She said how they don;t understand. I asked they don;t understand what? progressives? She said they just dont understand people and everything in general. I said well tea party people feel that there rights and liberties are being taken away and trampled do progressive's feel that way too? She said yes. I said do you think that tea partiers and progressive's can come together on that fact, that we both feel that our rights and liberties are being taken? She said yes.

I went on to say that there is going to be deviseness there but would it be possible to leave that devisiveness there and move beyond that and come together on the fact that our rights and liberties are at stake. Because without our rights and liberites we can;t move forward on other issues.

So what do YOU think will progressives and tea partier's be able to come together and gain back inalienable right and liberties or will the system/Empire continue to divide and conquer?

what rights are being taken away? i am 44 and i haven't felt any of my rights dissolve away yet...fear mongering much?

Originally posted by CaDreamer
what rights are being taken away? i am 44 and i haven't felt any of my rights dissolve away yet...fear mongering much?

WHAT !? Is this a serious statement or are you simply being cute ? "Search"
In the above tool bar should prove highly enlightening.

i am a law abiding citizen...the govt CAN do a lot of things however...it hasn't... my rights have never been infringed upon. in fact i am more free today than i was 20 or 30 years ago...

i do as i like when i like and never ever has the govt. came down on me... has it happened to you? or anyone you actually know?

i have my own business, i pay for my own insurance... etc. govt hasnt taken anything away from me personally ever.

i actually agree with you however, when you make nonspecific statements like "govt is taking away our rights" without documenting what the blazes you are talking about specifically, you sound no better than one of televisions talking heads, full of the one liners and fear mongering that goes with that crowd.

so we are turning into a "welfare state" hmmm i'm not on welfare are you? do you see my point? a Troll sees this type of post and it is party time. learn to make your arguments and prove your points... i could have milked outrage from you for at least half a dozen more posts.

i say this to instruct you not to anger you.

as long as there is an R or a D in the white house we will continue to lose our rights until finally the corporations own the world openly.

those are not federal officers i see in those clips those are local cops and state troopers...yell at your states for being complicit in taking away your rights remember each state is responsible for its actions. how about getting angry at your govs and state officials for playing into the hands of the feds instead of blaming the feds for taking advantage of weak useless state officials.

despite the good intentions of the tea partiers they ARE a branch of the republican party...

i speak of those leading the movement and those elected by the tea partiers...not the average citizen. every news outlet that i have watched has stated this

Originally posted by American-philosopher
I was at this meeting having to do with peace and all that right. We spilt into two different groups to do this excercise. (not actual aerobics or anything like that a learning thing. We get bacvk into the one big group to tell what we learned. And this lady says well we talked about how progressives and tea party people arand there state of mind. we took the side of the progressives well because were all ladies and were progressive. She went on to say that they wished they had a tea party perspective there.

So I appoarched the lady said well I remember you saying that you wished you had a tea party person well I will take that perspective. she said okay. I started by saying what is it that you don;t understand about tea partiers. She said how they don;t understand. I asked they don;t understand what? progressives? She said they just dont understand people and everything in general. I said well tea party people feel that there rights and liberties are being taken away and trampled do progressive's feel that way too? She said yes. I said do you think that tea partiers and progressive's can come together on that fact, that we both feel that our rights and liberties are being taken? She said yes.

I went on to say that there is going to be deviseness there but would it be possible to leave that devisiveness there and move beyond that and come together on the fact that our rights and liberties are at stake. Because without our rights and liberites we can;t move forward on other issues.

So what do YOU think will progressives and tea partier's be able to come together and gain back inalienable right and liberties or will the system/Empire continue to divide and conquer?

Umm.. Progressives are the enemy of Tea Party. It is like saying the USA(Tea Party) should align with Nazi Germany (Progressives) to rescue the people being tortured and killed by the Nazi Regime(Progressive Top Circle). It is just nonsensical.