reply to post by Jinglelord
Believe me, the removed post was a hate filled diatribe....
And as for the rest of us being bigoted, you are totally wrong. Like you say, you have no knowledge of the situation in the UK, so I will try and
make it simple for you.
This is not a racial thing, all of these people are white UK residents, born and bred in this country, so we are not being racist, that's a
You mentioned bikers, so let me give you an example, that maybe you can relate to (DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT SAYING THAT BIKERS DO THIS, JUST USING IT AS
EXAMPLE OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE); A group of bikers turn up and camp on some open ground outside your house, they are loud, they shout abuse at you,
your kids, your neigbours, doesn't matter if they are young or old. Then they start to party, setting fire to things, blaring loud music, fighting
etc til all hours in the morning. Eventually, a few days later, the police have moved them on, but the ground they were camped on is filled with
rubbish, beer cans, human excrement, gas cannisters, burnt out furniture...you sigh and think, well they've gone and you clear it up, or you pay
someone to clear it up.
Next month, a different group of bikers turn up and camp on the open ground, you think, oh well, hopefully this lot won't do the same thing...but
they do, and it's a repeat of the above, end result after days of abuse and the end result is that you have another clean up job on your hands.
Next month another group of bikers turn up...As above...and the next month and the next month and so on until you have been putting up with different
groups of bikers turning up and camping on the open ground outside your house and causing mayhem and destruction for years...What is your attitude
going to be to bikers who turn up and camp on the open land outside your house from then on...They have all behaved in the same way, and you know that
the next lot are going to be exactly the same.
However, you know a group of bikers who live in the town, they're decent folk, they keep themselves to themselves, they don't cause you any trouble
and you have no problem with them, yes they're still bikers, but they don't camp outside people's houses causing problems.
And this is exactly the scenario we are talking about. I think everyone that has contributed a negative opinion to this thread has also said that
there are two types of gypsy traveller, the ones that keep themselves to themselves, you never hear or see them and you don't have a problem with
them. Then there are the troublemakers, the ones who set up illegal camps and cause mayhem, and there are a large number of travellers who do this,
and as with the biker scenario I gave above, as soon as you see the transit vans, four wheel drives and trailers, pulling into a car park, playing
field, bit of open ground, you just know what the end result is going to be!