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Shame of Britain's Muslim schools: Secret filming shows pupils being beaten and 'taught Hindus dri

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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 03:08 AM
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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 03:59 AM
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Originally posted by 3finjo
reply to post by inforeal
 


Teaching kids to hate goes a little beyond entitlement to belief, wouldn't you say? If you hate a society, and hate is a strong term then go to a society that is a better fit for your belief system. Teaching hate should never be condoned, in any school religious or otherwise. This isn't an islamic hate thread, its bringing to our attention something that should be stopped.


I agree that teaching kids to hate is way beyond any acceptable level of behaviour, but then again, I think that this is all engineered to widen the divide between society as a whole. We are seeing more and more of this anti muslim diatribe being perpetuated by the Zionist controlled media. The only reason that this is deemed news and is being pushed into the main by TBT who's Zionist corporations control all or most of the MSM is to incite hatred of Islam by the moderate british society. If you cannot see that then you are not truly AWAKE.

Yes the teachings are terrible but the report is aimed at a British, Non Muslim Society and is propaganda to turn people against Islam and gain public support for their illegal wars. Since the Uprising in countries throughout the middle east, these kind of "news items" have increased tremendously. Sit back and take stock, why do you think that is? Now they release this crap saying that muslims are being taught that hindu's drink cow p!ss, so hey presto, increased ill feeling between British Indians and Pakistanis.

Control the Banks and you control the Governments, Control the Media and you control the minds of the sheeple. Walk into any working mans bar in England and see everone sitting around reading the Sun, Mirror, Star and Mail.... this and TV news is where they get their education on current affairs. The majority of people do not have a balanced view of world affairs and international political and corporate agendas, they just remember the junk news which they remember because it has Shock value.

"Shock doctrine" is a powerful tool used by governments and religeon alike - google it or get a hold of Naomi Klines book by the same title.

The worlds population is being divided more and more through religeous issues when they should be standing united against all repressive, corrupt and controlling governments.

PEACE,
RK



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 04:09 AM
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Religion shouldn't be a part of education. The UK is a secular country and its education system should reflect that. There should be no muslim, jewish, catholic only schools....all schools should be non-denominational. Their existence simply causes division that's carried through to adulthood.



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by BarmyBilly
Slightly off topic but did anyone see that BBC thing about Geert Wilders before dispatches? It was actually quite good considering it was from the Beeb, it showed the true nature of Islam.


Are you an Islamic Scholar and you already know the true nature of Islam
or did they report this case showing the true nature of Islam according to the BBC?

Which is it?

PEACE,
RK



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 04:12 AM
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edit on 15-2-2011 by christina-66 because: I don't know what day it is lol



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 04:22 AM
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Well here's some good news.


Police have arrested a man concerning alleged assaults on children at a mosque after viewing a Channel 4 documentary screened on Monday.

m.guardian.co.uk...

But from what I saw last night, these Madrass schools need shutting down for good. They have no place in modern British society. I am joining a campaign to end all religious schooling. I believe it is the most divisive thing a society could possibly do. These kids need to go to the same schools as the others in their society.
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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 04:56 AM
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This is so wrong the school should be closed,Are any of the pupils parents denouncing this style of (for want of a better word) teaching ? or are they cool with it ? that would tell us a lot,

Some of you here remind me of my 4 year old son,he gets in trouble for something and deflects it by saying that his sister did something else,sound familiar?it should be its the same childish crap alota your are participating in,
Why mention the catholic church or jews ? It's irrelevant to this discussion on a muslim school in the UK why is it ok to mention the sins of catholics & jews but not bloody muslims?Really if i posted "a muslim man broke into my house beat me up and molested my dog" would your reply be "an American jewish catholic British man molested a dog once after he beat up the owner so it's ok "
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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by christina-66
Religion shouldn't be a part of education. The UK is a secular country and its education system should reflect that. There should be no muslim, jewish, catholic only schools....all schools should be non-denominational. Their existence simply causes division that's carried through to adulthood.


This is the only point that needs making in this topic/on this topic in general. Well said.



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 05:49 AM
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Thanks for the comment but it's just common sense isn't it. Thanks Mr. Blair for encouraging 'faith schools' - another whacky idea from the sociopath of the century.



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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Yup, this is true.. the signal is the prime ministers of major European countries coming out and saying it.

I call this "phase two".. I don't know exactly what the ultimate agenda is, but divide and conquer and the hatred of Islam to further future wars comes to mind. As well as the tightening of the coming police state as a result of social disorder and the creation of ghettos.

However, I still maintain that mass immigration of muslims to Europe is an obvious failure and a looming disaster.
Sadly, some people STILL haven't caught up with that agenda and the negative ramifications, while others due to their hate of Islam clearly can't see the "follow up agenda". I guess it's a question of which bias a person holds.

You(not you specifically) really think these leaders that pushed for mass immigration and multiculturalism for DECADES suddenly had a change of heart? That's adorable.. No way, they get orders and they follow them, period.

Quite the conundrum huh..

We're getting played and the 'nationalists' are cheering it on.
We're getting played and the 'PC people' are cheering it on.

Seek balance in all aspects of life, integrate your masculine and feminine qualities.
DO IT!
Because..
some of you people are so delusional it's not even funny anymore..



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

We approached the Darul Uloom Islamic High School in Birmingham with the findings of our film. It claimed that the senior student who gave the speech about Hindus was later reported by other students, and has been expelled, and that no teachers were present ‘during the incident’.



Did everybody just forget this post? Some uppity sixth former starts mouthing off, gets busted and is expelled. Fairly relevant no? If a similar thing happened in a catholic school and some older student started calling all muslims savages that'll rape your virgin daughter and make you grow beards then I'm sure the same result would occur. In a secular country anyway.

This student that was expelled obviously has a screw loose and was sent packing when he was found out. I like the way that they say it is 'claimed' that he was expelled. Just more fodder for the haters to chew on. Very clever, but scumbag journalism. No evidence. Plain fear mongering.

And for anybody to quote from the Mail. Well, you just lost a lot of credibility. A more hateful, bile filled piece of toilet rag is not in existence. Well, perhaps the star is on a similar level.

And channel 4,



I stopped watching tabloid TV when I grew out of riding a BMX.

I don't doubt that extremists exist in all religions. Of course they do. And in a secular, decent country these people should be dealt with. I have no doubt that most are. For those that are not, lets just laugh at them and pull their preposterous theories to pieces. It ain't that hard to make a madman look a fool, after all.

End the hate. It's what the bastards want us to do!!!

Laze
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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 07:11 AM
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nice post,
a pleasure to see someone with eyes wide open


PEACE,
RK



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 07:12 AM
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As being born into islam, in europe mind you, i have never been taught any of those things that have been stated in previous posts. Im 21 years old now and never have I had any of that stuff shoved down my throat. I was brought up to be tolerant, nice and respectful to those that are respectful towards me, even people who are not ive been taught to simply ignore. For future reference I was born in Bosnia & Herzegovina.. Im still young, I regularly go out, I drink alcohol, I shave, I go to raves(no i dont take drugs) and i have sex. My parents are normal folk who just want to live their life normally. Infact every friend, all my family and family friends are the same way. The teachings you guys claim to be taught "throughout islam" are taught in secular cults of islam, mostly taught by extremists under sharia law. I know some are gonna point their guns at me and say things like "oh you dont know what your talking about because you are already indoctrinated" and stuff like that. Problem with statements like that is that you people pointing the guns at me are the ones that dont know what Ive been taught or how and where Ive been raised. So please keep your generalizations to yourself.. Islam is suffering the same prejudice that african americans were experiencing a few hundred years back. Although behavior like this should be punished and is plain wrong, this goes on in schools of all particular religious belief and it should be stopped.

Cheers,

A Normal muslim.
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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 07:19 AM
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As you can see from this article , ,it WAS happening in more than one school..birmingham , and one in yorkshire where a teacher has been arrested for beating children in a religious class,ahh the peace .....

m.guardian.co.uk...

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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by inforeal
When are they going to tape the Jewish and catholic schools?
People are entitled to their beliefs I thought.
Do they have to adhere to secular dogma? Wear mini skirts and drink alcohol
More Muslim hate threads, they never stop here.
I was hoping that this forum could go one day without one, but I was wrong


This isn't the Middle East! It's England!

I was brought up in a Catholic School and there was ZERO hatred for muslims, jews or hindu's there!



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by gambon
As you can see from this article , ,it WAS happening in more than one school..birmingham , and one in yorkshire where a teacher has been arrested for beating children in a religious class,ahh the peace .....

m.guardian.co.uk...

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Forgive me, but out of how many muslim schools?

Honestly, I would prefer religion to be kept right out of schools. There should be no religious conditioning of young people of whatever denomination.

However, wouldn't it be great if an intelligent rather than sensationalist journalist did a series on abuses and extremism at all religion affiliated UK schools. This is a show that I would watch.



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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It was the BBC following Geert Wilders past and present and it was what Geert was saying that made it show Islam in it's true nature.

And the TRUE nature of Islam is WAR on the infidel! Islam has entered Europe twice, both times with swords trying to conquer us, both times they failed. Now though and they say so themselves it's a war of the womb, they are breeding there numbers to eventually take over the country they reside in the UK in this instance.

Now i'm not saying all muslims want to fight the country they live in so Islam can dominate, because i am well aware of muslims who wish to integrate and work there asses of for society but i do not consider them true followers of Islam .
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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 09:01 AM
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Try walking down your high street stark bollock naked, and then come back to us and say that we can wear what we like. Try purchasing cannabis or other illicit substances, and see whether the authorities are happy for you to possess and drink it. Cultural relativism, people...


Touche/ well almost - - -

The trouble with Brits - indolent of mind

We can walk around our homes naked, but not in front of a window

We can appear in a magazine bollock naked as long as it's on the top shelf

We can appear half naked almost entirely naked in a newspaper and appear anywhere, but half the population are not interested in half naked.

We can wear whatever we like on a beach as long as we wear something

We can ride a bike naked through London as long as we let TPTB know we are doing it

And we can do practically anything in the name of art or religion.

Dude all we got to do get from in front of the TV and our heads out of the beer join together voila !

You heard how crabs operate in the pot ? A bit like the monkeys




posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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of course they will. as they do about israel. when they attack the ships that carry food and goods.

when they attack Qaze and use phosphoric bombs


when they get into a land and get every one out.


of course the governments have opne eyes as the people do.



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Honestly? I think this documentary was a good thing for UK Muslims. Why? Because yes, it did show fairly abhorent practices in Islamic schools, but it also showed me for the first time that I can personally remember, MODERATE Muslims saying no, this has to stop and it isn't what Islam is about. It brought about a sense of challenge to those who can change the status quo.

It wasn't sensationalist at all. It was showing something that really needs looked at, stamped out and frowned upon so that Muslims who aren't extremists can get on with things. Even Muslims were saying how they fully understand why groups like the EDL exist, without calling them names, because acts and hate speech like the ones filmed in those two schools do go on (and I'll bet they go on in more than these schools, these acts are easy enough to hide and gloss over) and both groups are terrified of each other.

I've also viewed Channel 4 as a very pro-multicultural channel as well, so it's refreshing that they aren't scared to confront these issues and bring them into the mainstream, because otherwise nothing would get fixed.

If it stops a child being kicked, punched, slapped and filled with hate and fear for their neighbours, it's a good thing.



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