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Originally posted by MavRck
Yeah... and where is the
WET ? (White Entertainment Network) ... obviously BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION. BET
Or the Caucasion network? (there are many east-indian, etc chnls in my area)
Or any white pride parades? Oh right... KKK took that too far.
Here is the thing, I am not racist. I never was. I think it's ridiculous.
I think it's ridiculous how all of or a great number of ethnicities have 'networks' and whatnot... but probably because i am WHITE.
The answer to your strugglesome question is this... White-man settled this land, and europe... the "minorities" need identifcation and uniquity by having these chennels etc because the REST of everything IS WHITE ...
It's basically "white day" every day.
My vote is for ZERO "pride" parades. Pride is for the inexperienced, unknowledged and naive.
Originally posted by tom goose
No way. Black history month seems to celebrate black history BEFORE America. I don't mean to sound mean but if were only black America history wouldn't there be more black only water fountains, cotton, and everyone saying boss. I think they want to forget their history in America and celebrate the history that came with them from Africa.
I am Canadian by the way, sure i have some German, British, and even Lebanese background. I have never lived in those places.... I AM Canadian....*crack..fzzzz*
Originally posted by SilentKillah
It's called Country Music Television (CMT). Just because it doesn't hold the name "White" in it doesn't mean that it doesn't serve the same purpose. And lets not forget that MTV once was the EXACT opposite of BET. They both since gone separate ways in programming which I'm not supportive of.
Originally posted by tom502
Originally posted by Zoyd23
Heritage week is an excellent suggestion....as an old white guy from north of the mason dixon line, I'd like to remember my white ancestors who fought to free slaves during that week, rather than being reminded of the ugliness that occurred at the hands of truly ignorant people. Many whites also for fought hard throughout the 20th century for civil rights--for all people. When a news organization continue to spew specials tltled, "Black in America" or "Hispanic in America" or "Muslim in America" I instantly see racist, anti-white tendencies and turn them off...I will never look at those organization (CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, etc) as either fair or balanced--I see them as promoters of racism.
I brought up the idea of a Heritage Month, for everyone. And I agree with your post. I think the anti-white haters purposely keep facts hidden from the leftist kids and blackists, that there were black slave owners in the US, that slavery originated in Africa from black Africans. And while yes there was segregation in the past, and bad things, the answer to them is not lies and more self segregation. It's unity. NAACP, the black klan, should be renamed as the National Association for the Advancement of ALL People United. Racism only breeds more racism. And while this month, the public schools push their anti-white agendas with this Black History Month, the little white kids are disenfranchised, with nothing for their race. It's simply wrong, and shows how the US seeks to keep the people divided and have a hidden agenda. And let's not forget, it was blacks, that enslaved blacks, and it was whites that freed blacks. And if blacks(I know not all) claim to be sensitive to the "past", even though none of it happened to THEM, then it should be just as valid for whites today, to be sensitive about the current high black crime rate, unfathered children, how the vast majority of inter-racial crimes have a white victim. I mean, all this anti-white racism, is only fueling a national discontent and division, and sadly, the powers that be, I believe, have this all planned out to be so, and it's too easy to get sucked into it.
Originally posted by FPB214
Originally posted by SilentKillah
It's called Country Music Television (CMT). Just because it doesn't hold the name "White" in it doesn't mean that it doesn't serve the same purpose. And lets not forget that MTV once was the EXACT opposite of BET. They both since gone separate ways in programming which I'm not supportive of.
CMT, in my opinion, is not like BET. BET shows anything and everything about the black culture. CMT is country. I never watch CMT, and never have and im white, I just don't like the country music. If it was about the white culture it would show more aspects than just country. As for MTV, when were they the exact opposite of BET? Ever since MTV has been around it has been about music in general, not a particular race. No race is left out on MTV today. That's why it poisons every race.
Also, back in school I learned about slavery throughout the year, not just in February. Whenever that time of American History would come around, such as the revolutionary/civil war slavery was a part of every aspect of it.edit on 16-2-2011 by FPB214 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
It just needs to end, or white racism needs to come back. We need to play the same game. We can play the game of "lets all be one group" and stop the act of discrimination for superficial reasons. (Gender, color, ethnicity) Or we can play an open game of "competition between groups," and go the natural selection route.
I personally dont care which game we play, I am just about fair. Whichever we decide upon we need to ensure both teams are playing by the same rules.
Hey so I moved into a new place where a few big Tongans/Samoans live down the street. I know they do some shady stuff already so I have decided to get a bike alarm, considering only one of them has to come lift the bikes front wheel up and roll it into their garage. Any suggestions?
If a group of people in my neighborhood came up to me, not knowing me, asked me if I wanted to buy drugs, I would assume that they care so little for the law that they would have no issues stealing my s***. I would probably refer to them by their "ethnic group" as well, I dunno, it just comes out like that.
Originally posted by FPB214
Well if that's what the history book looks like to him, than I feel sorry.
They must have left out the part where the slaves own race sold them off.
Maybe its because my skin is white, but I look at history, every part of it from the dawn of time, as a great feat for mankind. For the human race. Sure, it's important to learn about your individual race and the history that is behind it, but in the end it's important to look at ourselves as one. This is our planet, and we are all together. Thats how I see it anyways.
I dont know how old you are, and what history book you have read, but from the very beginning of my history learning in school the first thing we learned about Native Americans was their generosity to help save the settlers and help them get by on the land by teaching them their ways. I learned these people were caring, not morons who needed to be killed because they did not know what to do with the land.
Like I said, what is done is done and honestly, like everything else, it was meant to be for some reason or another.
The truth about Colombus is, he didn't discover America. Native Americans have more than likely been on the North American Continent for a very long time, alot longer than a few hundred years ago.
Fact is, many kids my age today, be it black/white don't care about history. They would rather try to make sure they fit in with the rest of the gang before they worry about going out and reading and learning about history. Wish it wasn't the truth.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Thing is, "their own race" sold slaves because whites were buying. Basic economics there, you can't have trade in a product unless there's a demand for it.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Originally posted by FPB214
Well if that's what the history book looks like to him, than I feel sorry.
That's actually the way they're written.
They must have left out the part where the slaves own race sold them off.
I've already covered this poorly-thought argument in this thread something like three times. 21 pages, I guess I can't blame you if you didn't catch it. Thing is, "their own race" sold slaves because whites were buying. Basic economics there, you can't have trade in a product unless there's a demand for it. Whites - the Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, and English - supplied both the demand for slaves, and the means to capture them. If we take them out of the picture, do you think the people of Africa would have been filling ships full of other Africans, and forcing whites in the new world to take them as slaves? Of course not.
Maybe its because my skin is white, but I look at history, every part of it from the dawn of time, as a great feat for mankind. For the human race. Sure, it's important to learn about your individual race and the history that is behind it, but in the end it's important to look at ourselves as one. This is our planet, and we are all together. Thats how I see it anyways.
And the point is, that cannot be accomplished if there is an active effort to obfuscate and denigrate the history of people who do not fit the standards of the dominant caste in a society. The saying is, "the victors write the history books,"but that statement is also an admission that such a history is biased and incomplete, isn't it?
I dont know how old you are, and what history book you have read, but from the very beginning of my history learning in school the first thing we learned about Native Americans was their generosity to help save the settlers and help them get by on the land by teaching them their ways. I learned these people were caring, not morons who needed to be killed because they did not know what to do with the land.
Precisely. You learned about a moment of Native people helping out whites. Did you learn why? Did you learn about the next 20 years after the foundation of the Plymouth colony? Do the words "Pequot" or "Metacom" mean anything? Narraganset? Did you learn about the actual depth of cultural exchange, or was it just Tisquantum showing the English how to put an anchovy in the hole they planted the corn in? Any mention of how the Jamestown Settlers migrated to and joined the Croatoan people, or why? Does it teach you that the Seminole were a multiracial people where whites, Indians, blacks, and even a few Asians lived together as one unified people? Hell, did you even know there were Asians in Florida at that time? (Spanish-speaking Filipino settlers who homesteaded in Florida in the mid-1500's, if you're curious)
The history books teach a very shallow view of history, at least as it pertains to Indians, blacks, the Spanish, and Asians in the country. The picture is very incomplete, and much of what students could learn is intentionally omitted - It's certainly not for lack of space.
Like I said, what is done is done and honestly, like everything else, it was meant to be for some reason or another.
Perhaps. However, wounds can be healed. And of course, history is always growing, every day. Society is always changing, every day.
The truth about Colombus is, he didn't discover America. Native Americans have more than likely been on the North American Continent for a very long time, alot longer than a few hundred years ago.
Master of the understatement. The truth about Columbus is that he literally committed genocide in the Caribbean. Hispaniola had a population of about one and a half million Taino in 1491. By 1495, they were down to two hundred. All the Spanish records of the period describe slaughter and brutality heaped on those people. Today there are no Taino.
Fact is, many kids my age today, be it black/white don't care about history. They would rather try to make sure they fit in with the rest of the gang before they worry about going out and reading and learning about history. Wish it wasn't the truth.
I know. That's one reason to advocate a better standard of history. Return history to these kids. 'Course, the entire process of teaching history in school is terribly flawed for ALL students, but that could be the subject for a whole 'nother thread. Check out James Loewen's "Lies My Teacher Told Me" for a pretty in-depth look at that subject.
Originally posted by SilentKillah
Originally posted by FPB214
Originally posted by SilentKillah
It's called Country Music Television (CMT). Just because it doesn't hold the name "White" in it doesn't mean that it doesn't serve the same purpose. And lets not forget that MTV once was the EXACT opposite of BET. They both since gone separate ways in programming which I'm not supportive of.
CMT, in my opinion, is not like BET. BET shows anything and everything about the black culture. CMT is country. I never watch CMT, and never have and im white, I just don't like the country music. If it was about the white culture it would show more aspects than just country. As for MTV, when were they the exact opposite of BET? Ever since MTV has been around it has been about music in general, not a particular race. No race is left out on MTV today. That's why it poisons every race.
Also, back in school I learned about slavery throughout the year, not just in February. Whenever that time of American History would come around, such as the revolutionary/civil war slavery was a part of every aspect of it.edit on 16-2-2011 by FPB214 because: (no reason given)
From what I've seen on CMT, it's the purely a "White" station. I can understand that you feel it's not the same as BET. But from an opposite perspective, I feel that it's pretty close to it. BET does exactly what you said today... yes, however in my younger years (17 or so years ago), I remember watching BET and pretty much it was solely black music videos all day. MTV was the exact opposite because all they showed were white music videos all day. And Bevis and Butthead of course. Nowdays, both BET and MTV are doing different things that I do like and I don't watch either of them anymore.
I am in NO way implying that MTV leaves a race out TODAY, but back in the past they did. MTV was a great station to me when they were doing a lot of the funny stuff like Next, and those dating shows. That's when I watched MTV the most.
When it comes to the schools, my school systems were different. I went to schools in Youngstown, OH, Orlando, FL, and PG County, MD, and the only time that black history was discussed was in the month of February. Maybe a few little statements about a black person, but it didn't ever discuss the significance on American History that it had.
Originally posted by tom502
I think this month just makes "white" Jane, see her friend Tanisha, as her black friend Tanisha. It simply creates an unneeded race barrier. Just because Dewan is black, and some other black person in the past was a slave does not mean Dewan was a slave. That's the same as saying if some black guy is a crack seller, then Dewan must be also. It's not good, and it's not right.
Originally posted by tom502
Honky don't count in the USA. That's the biased agenda of the powers that be. It's not racist to be against racism, which is what Black History Month is. It should be replaced with Heritage Month. Were all peoples of the various backgrounds can acknowledge them without being sepratist which is what singleing out one race(black) does. What about Yellow History Month, Red History Month, Brown History Month, it's all devisive. Do away with it completly or have Heritage Month, which is for everyone.