reply to post by rebeldog
Ok young man i tried being nice but...
I have used Pumps/ and or Mossberg in all of the above mentioned envioronments, cept russia, never been to russia.
You speak of modern weaponry, this saiga is a ak-47 basically just chambered for shotshells.
Although here in Kali, AK's are forbidden, i could school several experts on the AK platform.
Now onto modern weaponry, the AK-47 was born in 1947 after the AK-46 washed out due to small problems.
1947 is not modern mmmkay?
As far as comat situations, i have years of training and some live fire experience, but yeah my training may be 20 or so years old.
However fear today is still the same as it was 20 or even 200 years ago. that is the only real obsticle in a combat situation.
Now as for europe going to this weapon "almost exclusively" that's cool i'm an American, here we have a choice on which weapon we want, some
states excluded. Kalifornia is one of them unfortunately.
It is cool you have a Double barrel, they are cool and i get the point. it'll never jam.
Now just google Saiga jam and you will get a whole slew of Youtube vids of the gun jamming for one reason or another.
Now google Mossberg Jam you will hear crickets.
Now onto tactical, have you ever seen the box magazine on that gun???? try maneuvering any woodland with a 12 rd magazine in that thing, another point
is you need magazines.
Pump with tubular magazines suffer this none, you can top them off and they do not catch on a tree or jab you in the back, if you have maneuvered in
the woods with a 30 rd magazine you know what i speak of.
I have trap, skeet, wabbit, squirrel i have shot all things imaginable with my pump, and pumping really doesnt effect my accuracy as i practice.
Now, i do understand what you are trying to say, but there is still some merit to my platform and choice.
We cannot agree on everything, that said, if i could buy one here in The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia, i would jump on it, theyre great fun.
reply to post by subversivemike
That would be absolutely not outside of just a few for grins and giggles.
Non lethal or less than lethal is not an option, if you are worried about your kids, point blank a bean bag kills just by muzzle blast and blunt
force.
And in some states if you do not put your animal down, they will sue you for your gun, house, wife dog, truck, Etc.
I would never use bean bags, unless i was under orders to do so.
The only life they would save is a criiminals.
Just an old farts view.