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Originally posted by crowdedskies
One has to ask where the freemasons obtained their doctrines. Some argue that they came from Rosicrucianism.
edit on 13-2-2011 by crowdedskies because: (no reason given)
Masonry is the trunk or physical connection from which different Orders are formed
from time to time. Rosicrucianism in the Middle Ages and other movements of a later
date were offshoots put out through members of the Masonic Order, to meet a need of the
times without entangling Masonry itself.
Originally posted by crowdedskies
Whether he was part of a recognised lodge or not is not an issue. All that matters is that his system was effectively based on the same one used by the freemasons, but he took it into a different direction and became a pioneer.
One has to ask where the freemasons obtained their doctrines. Some argue that they came from Rosicrucianism.
At the end of the day, it is all about rites of passage (whichever way you get it)
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Originally posted by LightCraft
It DOES matter. If you are not of a lodge which is chartered and dispensated by the Grand Lodge of that jurisdiction it is not Masonry. Period.
Clandestine lodges and Irregular lodges may have similar teachings. However, no one can be considered a Mason outside the Grand lodge jurisdiction.
Also, anyone can call themselves a Mason.
Anyone can call themselves a professional driver. I ask you this: If you hand your 12 year old kid the owners manual to your ford and they read it front to back without ever driving, are they a professional driver? Are they an expert on anything? The same applies here..
Originally posted by alyoshablue
Interestingly enough, here is a link to this book, which can be provided in its entirety: Masonry and Its Symbols
The first two chapters are a great read and shed light on the subject a bit. Once you see that the teachings in Masonry are uber old, I would think that nobody contributes to the principles, but rather shapes and "translates" them in a contemporary context.edit on 13-2-2011 by alyoshablue because: typos
No, I'd wager he doesn't appear in a single one.
Originally posted by chocise
Perhaps you're correct afteral.... doesn't this fella appear in all Masonic Lodges???
Originally posted by Akragon
As long as sexual relations are complicated by religious, social and financial considerations, so long will they cause all kinds of cowardly, dishonourable and disgusting behaviour.
"True marriage has nothing to do with the social or religious formulisms of this barbaric humanity."
- The Major Mysteries by Samael Aun Weor
"Regarding this subject-matter of matrimony, legislators can establish all the laws they wish, nevertheless, indeed, they will achieve nothing, because happiness within matrimony is only possible when we hang Judas (the “I”). Thus, whosoever wants to be happy in their marriage must be sincere with themselves and not marry because of passion, because of money or because of social status.
"Modern matrimonies corrupt the sexual act. Modern matrimonies have failed because of sexual abuse. Modern matrimonies do not want to comprehend the divine majesty of sex. It is necessary to know that sex is very sacred. In the sacred India of the Vedas, sex is utilized in order to achieve more elevated states of Samadhi (ecstasy).
"Amongst the Hindustani Yogas, sex is utilized in order to attain the union (Yug) with the Spirit-essence and thus the entrance into Nirvana. Not a single Sage of the East would ever conceive of the idea of utilizing sex purely for carnal passion. The White Tantric Yogis perform sex with their spouse in order to attain Inner Self-realization.
"The best of Hinduism and Buddhism is White Tantra. The best of Yoga is Sex Yoga."
- Matrimony, Divorce, and Tantra by Samael Aun Weor
Originally posted by Akragon
One of the principal points about the sin stupidity is that it flatters the sinner. All insanity depends upon the exacerbation of the ego. The melancholic hugs the delusion that he has committed the unpardonable sin. Sins grow by repression and by brooding upon their enormity.
"The Interior Lord can forgive the Initiate when the repentance is true.
"All doors are closed for the unworthy, except the one of repentance. To receive the Mysteries and to inherit the Light-Kingdom is possible, thanks to the Spirit of Fire."
- The Pistis Sophia Unveiled
Originally posted by Akragon
Even i have considered attempting some of the spells in his writings, though i admit, i was afraid of what might happen.
Originally posted by chocise
Hmmm, where have all the Masons gone?
Perhaps you're correct afteral.... doesn't this fella appear in all Masonic Lodges???
Originally posted by chocise
Relieved because my father was a Mason & I couldn't imagine him being involved with anything remotely occultist.