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Conservatives encourage Holder to begin " War on Illegal Pornography "

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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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In this day and age, I wasn't even aware that there was such a thing as illegal pornography, outside of kiddie porn.



“Flooded with illegal pornography”

The War on Illegal Pornography announced today that U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and U.S. Reps. Mike McIntyre (D-NC) and Randy Forbes (R-VA) have begun enlisting signatories to a letter addressed to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder urging that the FBI and Department of Justice (DOJ) vigorously prosecute major producers and distributors of illegal adult pornography.

"The nation is flooded with illegal adult pornography in almost every medium, which is providing fuel to the fire of child pornography, destruction of marriages and families, addiction of children and adults, and an increase in sex trafficking, yet the U.S. Department of Justice has not indicted any distributors of such material in the past two years," said Patrick Trueman, Morality in Media CEO and former chief of the Department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section.

California Catholic Daily


It seems interesting that they note no prosecutions have occurred in the past two years, since Obama took office. It makes you wonder how much money he got from the porn industry.

I wonder what is defined as "illegal porn" by the government these days? I was under the impression that anything goes so long as kids or real violence isn't involved.




posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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I too am confused as to what adult illegal pornography is. Could be one of those "I know it when I see it." kind of things


edit: Human-animal porn is probably illegal, but I doubt it is rampant enough to justify a 'war'. I still feel like I am missing something.
edit on 12-2-2011 by JohnnyTHSeed because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 08:53 PM
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Illegal porn is probably like illegal music. That's what I imagine it is. There are literally thousands of sites that host porn like that.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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So..

Conservatives once again embark to engineer society to their standards by force of law.

Sounds like all those cries of big brother and intrusive socialism can now be marked as hipocriticism from the conservatives.

edit on 12-2-2011 by Miraj because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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It looks to me like these guys are grandstanding in order to satisfy their base. I wasn't aware that there was some big porn crisis going on in the country.

I guess I was distracted by the whole financial mess thingy going on. Maybe they should invest more time fixing that before starting another war on something. Although, that is what the Republicans are best at...


If the Obama justice department has done nothing to fight child pornography, that would be troubling but, if this is only about adult porn, then I see this as a non-issue.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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I don't quite know what it is either. I don't think it's about child porno.. I cant imagine that they would sit around and do nothing about that. I think it might be reffering to the ease of access to pornography on the internet.

Which it is extremely easy.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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I did a search for the group mentioned in OPs article "Coalition for the War on Illegal Pornography".

Supposedly...

Federal laws prohibit distribution of hardcore pornography, called obscenity, on the Internet, on cable/satellite or hotel/motel TV, and in retail establishments yet those laws are not currently enforced by the U.S. Department of Justice.
- www.salem-news.com...

I don't see this going anywhere. Although, I do foresee their youtube channel being hacked and filled up with pr0n. www.youtube.com...



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyTHSeed
I did a search for the group mentioned in OPs article "Coalition for the War on Illegal Pornography".

Supposedly...

Federal laws prohibit distribution of hardcore pornography, called obscenity, on the Internet, on cable/satellite or hotel/motel TV, and in retail establishments yet those laws are not currently enforced by the U.S. Department of Justice.
- www.salem-news.com...


Makes you wonder how they define "HARDCORE"?

What is hardcore porn anymore, and how do we tell the difference from good old regular porn? It probably is a matter of "I'll know it when I see it" but, each person might have a different standard. This seems to open the door to capricious prosecution, possibly motivated by political of financial motives rather than protecting the public.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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Can you imagine that trial?

A judge sitting there and trying to describe hardcore?

lol

It seems like these republicans just want to limit freedom of expression.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by FortAnthem
 


So..

Conservatives once again embark to engineer society to their standards by force of law.

Sounds like all those cries of big brother and intrusive socialism can now be marked as hipocriticism from the conservatives.

edit on 12-2-2011 by Miraj because: (no reason given)


Though your entire post is political baiting steeped with loaded language :I can not defend the conservatives who are involved.

Regrettably you are correct there literally is no difference between the red team and the blue team.... So govt.cyber slueths can insert a virus file or link on your hard drive; send in the cyber porno police and hey look at that! You sir are under arrest for "illegal pictures of naked meerkats engaged in procreation.

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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Here is an article where the FBI keeps 'merica safe by ordering some "illegal" "obscene" material from a DVD distributor. That is entrapment. Don't believe me? Well, that's just like, your opinion man.. which is the same standard used to define obscenity. What a waste of resources. Although they did collect a hefty fine from the DVD distributor


They actually plead guilt, but said they did not intend to break the law. It seems that local communities can define obscenity standards. This is fine, however, the burden of law should fall on the consumer, not the distributor.

www.post-gazette.com...



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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Right Ascension Inc., doing business as Adult DVD Empire, pleaded guilty to mailing obscene matter from May 29, 2007, when federal prosecutors said the company mailed four obscene pornographic videos from its Warrendale warehouse to undercover FBI agents in Erie.


If filling an order placed by a law enforcement officer isn't entrapment, I don't know what is.


At least this article helps with the definition of "Hardcore" porn:



Pamela Satterfield, an attorney with the Department of Justice's Obscenity Task Force, said the videos sold by the company were not "your run-of-the-mill porn."

The four films in question, including titles such as "A Bounty of Pain" and "Shattering Krystal," featured torture and bondage, Ms. Satterfield said.

Post Gazette


Still sounds pretty arbitrary to me.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 06:38 AM
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Just what we need.........another war.........another reason to snoop, wiretap, harress, invade privicy, take away civil liberties, etc.

There isnt a war on porn, drugs, terrorism, etc............its just a war on us.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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Ooooh. Bondage. How kinky and edgy... for middle-class white suburbanites in 1946.


Yet more attempted social engineering from, of course, the Pervert Party. Morons really have nothing getter to do with their time, right? Like, making sure the people in their respective states aren't dropping dead left and right of preventable illnesses, or that children in their state aren't being taught alchemy and Psalms instead of actual science? I know, right?



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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Hardcore porn portrays actual sex acts, as opposed to softcore porn, which is mostly just nudity and non-overtly sexual contact.

Hustler is hardcore, playboy is softcore, to put it basically.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 11:33 AM
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Actually.. It's not about political bashing.

Conservatives have seemed to gather this notion that the conservative team wants to keep government out of their lives. But that just isn't true. They simply spout the notion that they are for freedom when overlooking the places where they wish to limit freedom. It's my goal to remind people of this.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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I'm fairly sure this war can keep the MIC going on for years. You can have predator drones striking porn production sites and send the army to hunt for the ring leaders. I smell business



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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Ahhh... the war on sex continues! God forbid America partake of anything natural. This country was founded by Puritans, and we've never managed to evolve beyond that.

The difference between US television and European television is staggering. In Europe you will see plenty of nudity, but graphic violence is a bt of a no-no. Here? Here it's perfectly a-okay to see someone get their brains blown out on a television show, but God forbid we see someone's nipple. That's End of The World stuff right there.

Talk about ridiculous!



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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Well it looks like we have just found a good cost savings. The US needs to cut out all unnecessary spending. Cut out funding to this war effort. If Americans want to look at something online, they will do it. Spending extra money to combat yet one more thing is not something we can afford right now. If the US doesn't seriously cut back spending on all non essentials, our currency won't be worth jack before we know it.

I would urge congressmen and congress women to not fund any unnecessary bills or spending that is not deemed necessary to the survival of our country. In case someone just woke up, our national debt and liabilities total over $55 trillion dollars. Eventually people are going to wake up to the fact they they are not going to be paid social security benefits, Medicare benefits, etc. etc or only a fraction of what is owed them because the US is out of money and only printing enough right now to get by while we continue digging a bigger hole. That's a debt which amounts to over $183,000 per person if you use a figure of 300 million people in the US. For a family of 4, that would be $732K per family on top of everything else you may owe. Maybe it is hopeless. I don't think so though. It's just that any money being paid out for non essential programs will be less funds going to people who need it in years to come. The other option that may come about is that our money one day is only worth a fraction of what it used to be. That would be disastrous to the economy since gas may cost $15 per gallon, food would skyrocket along with everything else. Yet we are still considering funding this war and that war? Give me a break and wake up people.







 
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