posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 01:49 PM
Oh gosh, you know, I agree with Paul on some issues, on others I think he is overly idealistic. We see man as he should be and not how he is. It's a
recurring problem on this board. Bottom line: You aren't going back. You can't go back. Talk about how you want it all you desire, once the cat is
out of the bag it is next to impossible to put it back in.
As for the comments that big business will help us if these is money to be made...That requires the people being helped to have money doesn't it? Why
is the solution always to put a price tag on everything? No, things were not alright pre-1950. Old people starved on poor farms pre social security.
If you had no money you pretty much starved. These are realties in other parts of the world. Everyday ones. Maybe some of you should get out there and
take a look at the world beyond your backyard. Things aren't ok now.
The whole "Privatize everything" movement is one extreme. Communism is the other extreme. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. Are some things
necessary for a good society? Does the idea of a good society matter? Is society as strong as it's weakest member or do we leave them to fend for
themselves? If we are going to privatize everything let's not pretend the weak will be cared for-They won't. We will have Social Darwinism. Let's
at least admit it. If we go Communist we just kill the weak.
Let's use education as one topic of discussion: Is education necessary for a good society? If it is, do we care about that, do we ensure everyone is
educated at a specified level? Do we collectively pay for education or do we force those who use it to pay for it? If those who need it are unable to
pay for it, how do we deal with that? Do we deal with it at all? If we don't deal with it and these are hordes of uneducated people out there unable
to function at a basic level, can we accept that? Perhaps it will work better who knows. The problem is we are constantly comparing apples and oranges
here. The society of the Framers was very different. Most people didn't live in cities and grew their own food. There was no such thing as rapid
travel, population was lower, Blacks were slaves shall we keep going? You didn't need much of an eduction to plow a field. We don't live that kind
of society. So to try to apply what they did then to who we are now is illogical.
While I am pretty sure I will get nothing but flames for what I have said I hope some of you at least stop and think about what you are asking for.
I'm just a lonely old moderate. Seems we are dying out these days, but still, I try.