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reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 10:29 AM by crimvelvet

reply to post by MissSmartypants

I'm certainly not for heroin addiction or prostitution...but I'm sure for freedom.

The real question is have laws against drugs or prostitution improved America??? For that matter have the tens of thousands of laws we now have actually "improved our lives" or made them a lot harders?

The answer is a RESOUNDING NO!

Legal prostitution would allow the women a decent living without brutality and WITH medical screening for disease.

We have cops who sit and watch the drugs being sold until the dealer has converted almost all of it to cash AND then they confiscate the cash and do not bother gathering evidence to convict. That was the conclusion of a year long study in drug enforcement.

We need laws against REAL crime, theft, assault, rape, fraud, murder,and criminal trespass. We need law enforcement focused on THOSE crimes and not whether Miss Fussbudget thinks old Mrs Kindheart has too many stray dogs and get PETA to trump up charges and get Mrs Kindheart tossed in jail for "Animal Cruelty" (It happened in my town a couple years ago)

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 10:33 AM by Sekter

I was all for Dr. Ron Paul back in 2008, and it's just ridiculous how many are opposed to Dr. Paul. I sincerely hope he has a much better chance this time around if he so chooses to run for 2012. He has my full support and backing. I truly believe he is our only hope to get some changes to Washington.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 10:44 AM by jimmyx

Originally posted by DeadStarState
Definantly the best hope we have. There's others that Dr Paul backs whom are on the same track as he, though less publisized.

careful what you wish for...one small piece of advice...check out how he feels about what the government DOES protect us from. remember, a civilized society protects the people that ARE NOT wealthy, healthy, and strong. we cannot let the "losers" in our country simply die in the streets and be gathered up like roadkill. if it doesn't?...it turns into a Laos, or a Cambodia, or a Rwanda, or an afghanistan.

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reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 10:52 AM by MissSmartypants

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We need laws against REAL crime, theft, assault, rape, fraud, murder,and criminal trespass. [/quote}

I never quite understood the concept of how a crime could have been committed...yet there is no victim? And we just accept that?

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:01 AM by MissSmartypants

Originally posted by Skippy1138
reply to post by MissSmartypants

Why are you saying it's "banned"?

Apparently when it was originally posted on youtube it was banned by them and the original poster had to open another account and repost. I don't know anymore than that.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:09 AM by MissSmartypants

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we cannot let the "losers" in our country simply die in the streets and be gathered up like roadkill.

Well, Dr. Paul's premise is that once we abolish income tax, individuals will have the income at their disposal to help those less fortunate...if they are so inclined to do so... and therein lies the rub. You're right, we can't let those unable to take care of themselves just die from lack of help and I would hope that organizations would spring up offering a means for the average person to contribute to the welfare of the less fortunate in a cost effective manner. If there is money to be made out of charity I'm sure big business will step in.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:11 AM by HexagonSun

We need a Ron Paul in the UK. He is a brilliant man.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:16 AM by AthenaV

Every time I hear this man speak, I am filled with so much hope. It is such a rarity for a politician to take such a common sense (to me) stance on these issues.

I voted for him in the primaries of the last election even though I was told that I was "wasting my vote." I will do so again if he so chooses to run. Hopefully more Americans are waking up and seeing with new eyes what our government has become. With the recent state level elections, I have seen quite a bit of Libertarian-thinking people being voted in. Let's hope that this continues in the 2012 Presidential election.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:23 AM by babybunnies

Originally posted by Sekter
I was all for Dr. Ron Paul back in 2008, and it's just ridiculous how many are opposed to Dr. Paul. I sincerely hope he has a much better chance this time around if he so chooses to run for 2012. He has my full support and backing. I truly believe he is our only hope to get some changes to Washington.

It's not ridiculous when you really think about it. People have been brainwashed by the media into thinking that they have to vote for the candidates that the media put forward. They generally put forward the candidates that will most likely tow the party line.

Dr Paul, while being a Republican, is SO committed to his ideals and his GREAT ideas that the media don't know how to deal with him, so they ignore him. They aren't used to a politician who speaks his mind, who has no hidden agenda, makes no backroom deals, is happy to discuss his voting record (and sticks by his votes, rarely along party lines), and tells America how things have to work to be fixed.

It's not news when someone has ideas that will work. It's news when someone does something controversial. This is why Sarah Palin gets so much coverage in the MSM (after all, most of what she says is very controversial) and why Dr Paul gets barely any coverage at all.

If more Americans got exposed to Dr. Paul's ideas, who WOULDN'T vote for him? Less Government control over every day life? Replace income tax with a flat sales tax so everyone pays the same? Get tough on Illegal Immigrants? No matter whether your Republicrat or Democran, these are excellent ideas.

If Dr. Paul were to run for Prime Minister of Canada (were it possible, which unfortunately, it isn't), he would have my full support. I would even work for his campaign.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:24 AM by MissSmartypants

Originally posted by AthenaV

I voted for him in the primaries of the last election even though I was told that I was "wasting my vote." I will do so again if he so chooses to run.

Yes, we Ron Paul supporters need to be a stubborn bunch and just keep voting for him until we get our way.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:28 AM by babybunnies

Originally posted by MissSmartypants
reply to post by crimvelvet

We need laws against REAL crime, theft, assault, rape, fraud, murder,and criminal trespass. [/quote}

I never quite understood the concept of how a crime could have been committed...yet there is no victim? And we just accept that?

No, we need laws that focus on the rights of the victims, not the rights of the criminals that perpetrate those crimes.

Criminals, both "accused" and "convicted", have more rights than just about any other group in society. Something is very, very wrong with society when they treat those who have caused damage to that society better than the average citizen just trying to make their way. Criminals get a free roof over their heads, central heating, air conditioning, college level education, back to work training, free health care, free medication, free cable tv, free gym equipment, free three square meals a day. All while giving NOTHING back to the society that is paying for all of this.

I bet the average person trying to struggle on welfare, disability, or a seniors pension would LOVE to have all this laid on for free for them, all paid for by the taxpayer.

When convicted criminals are eating better than families on welfare or social services, there is something wrong with how we treat people.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:34 AM by crimvelvet

reply to post by Sekter

I was all for Dr. Ron Paul back in 2008, and it's just ridiculous how many are opposed to Dr. Paul.

The Fabians (wealthy elite socialists like David Rockefeller) have worked very hard for the last hundred years to make "Collectivism" very tasty to the American public. The real agenda of course is always cloaked under humanitarian appeals. The young activists, appalled at the wars and other injustice the Fabians have created are converted to their cause never knowing they are aiding the "enemy" they are protesting against. If you had ever wondered why the laws congress passes never seem to do what they are supposed to and always seem to make things worse, now you know. THEY are SUPPOSED to make things WORSE!

For example: How can you use the poor and down trodden in the USA if you do not have any? You pass a law to turn those in mental institutions out onto the streets and then watch the number of street people and incarcerations skyrocket. Instant injustice for an activist rallying point.

The Fabians have two symbols that characterize them, the turtle for slow steady advance and the wolf in sheep's clothing for their true character. In their stained glass window note how they are breaking the world apart to re-mold it into the world they want and note the shield above the world that has the wolf in sheep's clothing. (Supposedly the turtle is there too but I could not find it)

What has happened has been explained fairly well here.

THIS is the WHO:
Part 1: The Chasm
Part 2: Secret Organizations and Hidden Agendas (gets into the Fabians)

This is how they have gotten us into wars:
Part 3: Days of Infamy
Part 4: The War on Terrorism

The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-face for the urge to rule it.

- H. L. Mencken

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:38 AM by MissSmartypants

reply to post by babybunnies

Criminals get a free roof over their heads, central heating, air conditioning, college level education, back to work training, free health care, free medication, free cable tv, free gym equipment, free three square meals a day.

I'm not for coddling criminals with tax payer money but TV is a ultimate babysitter after all and if it pacifies the inmate population and keeps them docile and easy to handle than I think it's money well spent.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:46 AM by boredsilly

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reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 11:49 AM by CIGGSofWAR

yea yea this guy Ron Paul rocks, Go back to the basic of the consintution, and the bill of rights. a little book that can be caried by the invidual, go in every B.O.B. The consintution moved people out from the dark ages. But there are others who have tried to remove and add to the consintution which is treason, and impeachment the president is required faliure to protect the consintution. The presidents main job is not to protect the people corporation.but too protect the consintution, The job of the consintution is the reflection of United States and protects "we the people" through the job of the federal states.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 12:05 PM by OmegaLogos

Explanation: S&F!

but it wasn't banned by ABC News or 20/20 but by google and maybe that had some copyright issues etc.

Here is what I found...

Ron Paul Unplugged pg1 (by JOHN STOSSEL and GENA BINKLEY Dec. 7, 2007 ) [abcnews.go.com]

Ron Paul Unplugged pg2 (by JOHN STOSSEL and GENA BINKLEY Dec. 7, 2007 ) [abcnews.go.com]

Ron Paul Unplugged pg3 (by JOHN STOSSEL and GENA BINKLEY Dec. 7, 2007 ) [abcnews.go.com]

Ron Paul on Freedom of Choice [Video] (note: contains ads. abcnews.go.com]

Paul: "Governments can't protect individuals from themselves."

Personal Disclosure: That all 6 aren't immediately available is concerning though and OL approves of this thread regardless!

edit on 13-2-2011 by OmegaLogos because: Edited to add page no#'s to the links .soz

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 12:06 PM by DragonTattooz

Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by MissSmartypants

paul don't have the stones to make the tough decisions potus needs to have.

He's a DOCTOR- A real Doc, not one of these money-grubbers that call themselves doc's today. He knows how to make tough decisions. He delivered thousands of babies and I'll guarantee you he made a few life-and-death decisions along the way. He has huge stones, and he would be the best president in the past 150 years or so.

But, there is an area where I disagree with him, or maybe I am misunderstanding him. He always mentions how evil corporations and lobbiests (sp?) are- and I agree. But then he says the free market will take care of things. The free market consists of the same corporate scumbags, so why does he think they would act differently? If lobbying were made illegal (as it should be), the MBA scum would figure out another way to screw people, because that is just simply what they do.

I don't know the answer, but I do know that allowing corporate free reign is not the answer.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 12:08 PM by MissSmartypants

reply to post by crimvelvet

Your post reminds me of something Hessdalen implied a few posts back....that either Ron Paul is totally good or completely fooling us and will betray us when elected. I hope he's not one of those wolves in sheep's clothing.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 12:16 PM by silverbullett

I pray he can get on the ballot in 2012. He's got more common sense than any other candidate I've seen in years. S&F for you sir.

reply posted on 13-2-2011 @ 12:22 PM by Mizzijr

Originally posted by MissSmartypants
reply to post by crimvelvet

Your post reminds me of something Hessdalen implied a few posts back....that either Ron Paul is totally good or completely fooling us and will betray us when elected. I hope he's not one of those wolves in sheep's clothing.

If he does get into office and turns out to be a fraud then you know it's time for a revolution. That is just ridiculous. We're past due for one anyway..