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Why do UFO's keep their lights on?

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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Basically what Gortex and Arbitrageur said.
Maybe check out the Nazi bell.
And also I think that there are more than just one type of craft and believe there are more than one type of being piloting them. Not to mention UAV's.




posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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Well personally I really don't think that these are "lights" like we know them.
I think what we see is some sort of pure energy coming from the crafts due to their operation.
And it might very well be that some imitate the behavior of airplanes for whatever reason.
Also I do not think that all of the ETs care about being seen. Some don't mind, some do.

You should always take into consideration that there are MANY different alien races around with different ships and they don't all act the same way.
Most of them seem to "hide" somehow which might very well be our inablility to see them and not really hiding. We as human beings can't see that much of the full frequency sepctrum. If we could - well, then I believe hell brakes lose regarding how many alien crafts we see flying around there


So in a nutshell:

- Most of them "hide" / are invisible, some don't care to be seen.
- What we see are no regular lights but energy that comes from their ships.
- Some imitate the behavior of airplanes to some degree for whatever reason.

Hope I could help a little.

Cheers

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Instead I replied to a single comment... ooops...



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by mrMasterJoe
Well personally I really don't think that these are "lights" like we know them.
I think what we see is some sort of pure energy coming from the crafts due to their operation.


If this is the case then why aren't we getting 100's of daytime UFO's with lights?

It doesn't matter why the have the lights, the fact is we don't see the lights on daytime UFO images...



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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If this is the case then why aren't we getting 100's of daytime UFO's with lights?

It doesn't matter why the have the lights, the fact is we don't see the lights on daytime UFO images...


You know stars are still in the sky during the day..
How many of those do you see in daylight???



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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They could be rechaging some myserious devices we are yet to compehend. Collecting energy from our skys that we are yet to discover. Just my thoughts



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Versa
If this is the case then why aren't we getting 100's of daytime UFO's with lights?

It doesn't matter why the have the lights, the fact is we don't see the lights on daytime UFO images...
You're asking the right questions!

I like that!

Yes if the lights were from the propulsion system I too would think there might be some kind of light on the daytime UFOs. And in the case of one type of object, that IS the case. Rockets or missiles are sometimes mistaken for UFOs and the light IS a result of the propulsion system and it's seen in the day as well as at night.

Keep using your brain like that and you'll have a better chance of sorting out the wheat from the chaff.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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You seem to assume there are no daytime UFOs with lights. If you search Google Images or YouTube for "UFO daytime" you will find a significant percentage that have lights on during the daytime. I know I've seen some amazing daytime footage in documentaries where the entire UFO is glowing and pulsing.

Also there are sighting reports of UFOs turning their lights on and off. Assuming these reports are true then UFOs can at least operate to some level with "lights off."

Another question to ask is do you drive during the day with your lights on? (I know all motorcycles and vehicles registered in Canada have to but you know I'm getting at...) If it's true that a smaller percentage of UFOs during the day have their lights on there might be a very reasonable explanation for it. For example perhaps certain sensors they use require a specific spectrum of light that during the day is provided by sunlight and at night is provided by their vehicle lights.

While I think it's a good question and might be helpful to separate hoaxes and misidentification from actual sightings I don't think the data supports your theory that UFOs don't have lights during the day.

Also I'd like to say that I agree with the other poster that since they're appear to be a variety of UFO shapes (assuming UFOs are ET vehicles) it makes sense that there is a variety of alien species. It follows that these species would have different agendas and different feeling regarding being sighted by humans. My personal belief on this is that aliens are actually interested in human response to alien visitation and in many cases make themselves visible on purpose in order to collect data on human reaction.
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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by Versa
If a UFO wished to remain unseen at night it simply has to turn of its lights.
Therefore its safe to assume that a UFO with lights wishes to be seen or doesn't care if it is seen.

If UFO's (in this case extraterrestrial crafts) are happy to be seen then they should also be seen during daylight hours.

If ET doesn't mind being seen then why don't amateur astronomers see them and photograph them using their very good telescopes and cameras on a very regular basis?


Why aren't there any 100% undebunkable UFO pictures? Enough people own decent telescopes and cameras now....

There lies my problem

Because theY ARE not lights,they are' Engines',its the ufos greatest weakness,they can fully cloake there ship,but its,even imppossible for any scientest,of any world,to cover the main source of energy that enables them to fly.
they are not lights,they are engines.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 07:35 AM
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I'm with ya OP,
I agree,


but let me put on my nut cap.
What if we do have better photo's?
Aliens use their telepathy and send images to the sci-fi experts.
How do you think these sci fi writers and designers come up with their images for the movies?
as some say Aliens created us, so they created our imagination and put in nuggets of their lives.

Every ET Craft we see in the movies is a real craft somewhere out there!
Just like we see a cgi of a F-15, it's actually a real plane.

Ok nut cap off
back to my normalcy, and hopefully my hair isn't to messed up


The actual truth is how many people know how to take a picture in the night time?
If there was a UFO outside your house tonight, are you ready to take a picture of it?

go out tonight and when you see the first airplane flying take a picture of it. Then see how good your picture comes out?

For me, I'm still working with my camera trying to see if I can take a clear night time photo of a airplane.

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posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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To get to the other side.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Versa

Originally posted by Unity_99
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Of course they want you to see them.
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If they wanted us to see them there would be no debate... We would all see them and we would all see evidence. As it is We in ufology are teetering on the verge of religious belief... Those that debunk are akin to apostates, disclosure is akin to Armageddon.


That is not the point. My experiences were wake up calls. I would gone my whole life, not being aware of what was occurring, despite the early family sitings, despite around that same time having a siting of a grey and despite my brothers missing time. There is a lot more to ufology and this universe, even what reality is, what its purpose is, its all tied in. You can't take spiritual out of ufology either, for those ones that would be on our level or channel or plane, and be as unaware as we are, or low tech, would not be traveling the stars either.

Its easy not to see, and there seems to be programs to not question. It would take far too long to explain what I've learnt and was shown in the past 3 years since my family were given the wake ups, its even hard to find the correct words to write.

I began by making a few supportive posts in ufology related categories, but now usually avoid them and spend more time in the metaphysics ones.

What is a ufo for example? If you're talking about a craft, a mechanical type device that flies with a kind of anti gravity, then alot of this would be ours??? Perhaps not all of it, but then ETs have dropped their phasing and are interacting in our "channel", our space-time astral density channel? Which is a low level matrix? Its like being in a box, unable to perceive very much of the light spectrum at that, with blinders on!

Is a UFO only that? I've witnessed beyond our black ops and beyond TR3B's and what I call Vrill type co-op or para military operations crafts.

Gateway? Are UFO's doorways, windows? Like our sun is? How can a craft be 20-40 feet on the exterior. The ones we saw were roughly 30 I think, the light covering it makes it hard, and there is only one spot where we could see under it, my son and I. That was when it neared the roofline, as we were on the edge of the city and the city glow started at our roofline. We have since moved. They flew very low, lower than conventional crafts, which we also saw alot and noted alot of details on, went directly over our roof, soundless, without wingspan. If they allowed us to see under the light, they flew straight forward at alts varying from 50 feet to say 150 roughly. I judged by one of the trees out back, I would say, tree height, or maybe three trees. We could see the saucer. One was a wingless plane, flying tail down, nose in the air, and the light was wedge shaped with height. You could only see them for a very brief glimpse.

More often than not, they would disappear near the roofline before you could see, or arc way up in the air, unlike any plane, which by this point if over our roof would have displayed wingspan, noise and lights, and carry on over town.

Aside from this aspect. There were more unusual things pertaining to them. I would be greeted. Once so loud I thought someone was walking around the bushes, lost from across the road, just prior to that wingless plane flying over at roughly 50 feet. They appeared often out of nowhere, just suddenly there showing between the trees, after a greeting. My son would call me out often and when asked if he was nudged or greeted, he couldn't describe it, but he knew from inside the house, he didn't have the same contact but he had a kind of knowning or nudging that they were there, he was connected.

He had missing time too. Memories were returned as well. I know what its like inside. Sleeper and Observe50 both described a craft that I understand and that alarmed me so much I couldn't read their posts without pacing and putting it down for a while and picking it back up. A craft that is say 30 feet on the outside, but huge inside, massive.

A craft with circular hallway and portals/windows. As a child I looked out those windows, while inside past the corridor there are various rooms, some are for medical type things, some are computerized type rooms, and I recall both.

A ufo to me, is more like a gateway, since Infinity has hallmarks such as no measurement possible. The endless infinity within a grain of sand would measure at the same endless volume as within a star, so that, something "measuring 20 feet by the program in our brain" could contain a station, a world, a galaxy within even. A large whole can be excerted into a smaller form or shape. There is no measurement possible in infinity and infinities exist within all things.

If you view the universe as it is, in our textbooks, then you wouldn't understand any of this, which is why I say that there is a spiritual or metaphysical aspect beyond the scientific concrete. Because we're talking about a holographic universe, with infinite channles of space-times, based on orbits and density. Lou Baldin's accounts of the different channels in this solar system with planets that are developed is a very good read.

Not all, but most of what would be more conventional science here is negative or ours. Higher Ups are not operating on our channel natively, and their crafts are not akin to our mechanical devices.

ET_MAN's spiritual/metaphysics posts, observe50, Sleeper/Lou Baldin's posts and website: ufospeak.com there is a lot of information. A little bit of distortions seemingly mixed in too.

I just wanted to add, what is done still can leave physical marks, you still can have physical checkups. There is a physical component to being an experiencer. The checkups everyone on earth receive also contain that physical component as well.

This is only touching in a short way on what ufos are, but I have a pretty good idea whats going on, but will never make a thread on it. Its not up for mud slinging, there is no need. People need to be on their search.

Negative ET entities, ie lower astrals, from annanuki times, are running this negative planet, but it still has free will or it would taken back, ie. its still a school, we still can learn that slavery, starvation, war, and anything that is not Love hurts and to chose to become loving caring wide awake people who refuse to be put in boxes. So, in view of their determination to dumb down the population, feed us poisons, cull the herd, and hide high tech advancements out of sight, do you think they want us to all see them? No way!

Since there is a spirituality, and a metaphysics, and this is a school, we do have choices, we come here with our memories wiped, do you think that the Higher Ups or benevolents show up to everyone, do the students get slipped cheat sheets and the answers by the teachers on their exams?

No they don't! Every single person on this planet has been taken and processed if you like that term by them, just like Sleeper, John Lear, and ET_MAN have said. Time is but a program in our brains, so they their remotes. Most don't know its happening. Everything is watched over and every hair on our heads is counted. Every thought noted. There is no privacy! This is a school and there are oppositions, at work in it, and on us.

The last experience as in abduction related, I've had contact since, that I know of was before we moved, end of May of last year, 2010. In the evening I opened the door and saw a grey, only he wasn't grey colored, he was a ruddy kind of pinkish color and he looked at me for a second and then twisted to the side and leaped and vanished, movements like liquid. Not quite like any picture online either. And that night I dreamt that the whole family was abducted, was told something that was quantum about time itself, that they did not do time, that this day had taken 9 days to complete. Which is understanding I'm beginning to get, that if earth could be likened to a school, kindergarden, as some put it, I could also add, Hotel earth. There are 7 billion of us nearly, and each of us has our own private room. Ie. When you are beginning to wake up, will you have more "time" given to grow or learn something Well, time is a program, in reality its all clips in infinity, like a locale or frequency. No Time is the state of reality. Is it possible at times to be in a private room, where those around us for a short period would be perceptions, to finetune something or get it right? YES!

The goal is to grow our consciousness, and become really loving equal people, able to progress, rather than allow ourselves to be regressed or anyone to dim us down.

So the goal is to search, seek, question, meditate, skywatch, ask. For anyone who does this will find what they have sought. Work on your love quota. Raise your love and unconditional love to the next level. Becuase I DO NOT recommend skywatching when you couldn't care less about others and are bought off by the trinkets of this world.

We give permissions and switch channels by our thoguths, words and actions. There are positives and negatives, and we are given permission to negatives to alter us, dumb us down more, and turn down our lights when we are being negative ourselves, and we give permission from our Family/family and the Good to assist us when we are striving to become so loving we would never harm anyone, even those who are doing wrong in this world.

Is there a moment where everyone could see them. I hope so. That really depends on us. If we were all waking up, skywatching, seeking, praying, asking for equality and the end of banks, slavery, and starvation/wars. If we reported for duty and asked for ways to be nudged to know what to do. If we were consciously seeking to grow our consciousness and love to the next level of awareness instead of allowing the blinders put on, then I think they would show up, or it would be over.


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posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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The above is a bit hard to read, I've got a severe headache for two days now, not feeling well. In addition its very hard to compile a cross reference, I don't have a good internal sorter that way. However, the overall is that what isn't a para military type craft, and many are, is more akin to a Gateway experience, it IS transdimensional, rather than dimensions though which mean alot, more akin to channels, like a dvd player.

Everyone can experience more of whats under the matrix, they can make connectioins within their hearts and consciousness, even experience sitings if they're seeking and working on themselves, ie. seeking to make right their relationships, overcoming the dimming and box and apathy we have here in this world, and the materialism.

I have two threads under my profile that can help, one is: Waking to who are in source and the other one is about manfiesting eden, but they both have many videos, music, binaurals. There is a thread called Bach To The Future that has a really good binaural on it.

Learning how to lucid dream can be helpful. I can't do it. Alot of the experiencers I've written to have their thryoids turned down, and this means sleep time is deeper and less abilities to be conscience.

Also, like the classic concept of the devil and angel sitting on your shoulder, experiences are mixed and subject to distortion. So its really important to seek to connect within to your Infinite Potential, and your progression/Love. To have faith in all that is Good. I would not even bother seeking on this issue from a conventional viewpoint of what you think the universe is, one 3d plane like earth with everything relating to our earth-time, its not!!! Its more akin to a metaphor like school, like being in a matrix, television set, where there is an outline to the program, but you can make changes as well, so its interactive, to your frequency and positivity. To your unconditional love. It would be irresponsible to encourage anyone to just seek contact with another "civilization" thinking things are like they are here.

In other words working on yourself and love quota is the most important thing. But pouring your heart out under the stars for help for this planet so we can be equal, out of this slavery and the wars and starvation which is how the negatives run things, along with setting up traps for people to pull them onto negative channels.

Not only is the universe not this materialistic plane we think it is, with everything concrete and logical and straight forward, but ufology isn't like that either. Its a quantum metaphysics, you know the psuedo science that gets a bad rap, but thats the stuff this is related too, so is reality.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Versa
If a UFO wished to remain unseen at night it simply has to turn of its lights.
Therefore its safe to assume that a UFO with lights wishes to be seen or doesn't care if it is seen.

If UFO's (in this case extraterrestrial crafts) are happy to be seen then they should also be seen during daylight hours.

If ET doesn't mind being seen then why don't amateur astronomers see them and photograph them using their very good telescopes and cameras on a very regular basis?


Why aren't there any 100% undebunkable UFO pictures? Enough people own decent telescopes and cameras now....

There lies my problem

The so called "ufo" is a high energy source and it ionizez the air and particles around them! A good example is this movie , where an UFO appears in earth's atmosphere and when it shoots out in space it almost can't be seen! (no air to ionized!!!)
That's why ufo's "keep their lights on"


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There is a secret war being waged in Space.
www.youtube.com...
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posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by leaualorin
The so called "ufo" is a high energy source and it ionizez the air and particles around them! A good example is this movie , where an UFO appears in earth's atmosphere and when it shoots out in space it almost can't be seen! (no air to ionized!!!)
That's why ufo's "keep their lights on"


I can understand that theory but it doesn't explain all the videos and photographs of UFO's at night with several lights on them winking and changing colour, not to my satisfaction anyway



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Versa

Originally posted by mrMasterJoe
Well personally I really don't think that these are "lights" like we know them.
I think what we see is some sort of pure energy coming from the crafts due to their operation.


If this is the case then why aren't we getting 100's of daytime UFO's with lights?

It doesn't matter why the have the lights, the fact is we don't see the lights on daytime UFO images...


Versa if you do a quick google search for 'daytime UFO' you'll see plenty of UFO's with lights. Obviously only some of these are going to fall into the 5%, truly unidentifiable category.

As for your original questions here are some possibilities,

1) Light is a secondary product of a propulsion system.
2) The lights are coming from some kind of plasma form or meteorlogical phenomena
3) The 'UFO' is some kind of yet undiscovered life form that emits light
4) The UFOs are ET or interdimensional craft and their agenda is to inflame our curiosity by remaining subtle and unfathomable (as other posters have mentioned)
5) Some UFOs are experimental black ops craft who's pilots couldn't care less if their lights are seen or not

I tend to believe that as there are so many possibilities for what UFOs could actually be are there are going to be just a many possibilities for why they seem to have lights.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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I'm going to have to have a good search about this week for decent UFO vids/pics in daytime with lights and come back to this....



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by Versa

Originally posted by ProphetEzekiel
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They are testing Man.

They are testing our ability to believe in Truth without undeniable proof. They teach us in the name of God.

Much like Man teaches Dog.


A classic example of my belief that Ufology is mirroring/becoming religion...

There is no need for proof just belief....


Of course. The arguments some UFO proponents use are the exact same religious people use. For example, when ever a member of the scientific community or NASA or some such debunks a UFO sighting, some UFO enthusaists will say things like:

" Of course they cant see the evidence, because their scientific minds wont allow them to except things that are outside of the bubble, outside of the norm, they just need to have an open mind"

Which of course is nonsense, because science has made all its huge leaps precisely WHEN they discovered new ideas outside of whats known at the time: relativity, gravity, coppernicus, Kepler, Hubble, etc.

That and scientific insitutions spend more money trying to find aliens then anyone else.



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:50 AM
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Good post, I think you've covered the main points there.
I might add

- Lights could appear sometimes when 'uncamoflauged' due to changes in their system configuration, refuelling, special manuevres, errors, malfunctions or when collecting data



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:52 AM
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Also, lights are commonly misidentified as it they are well ...lights in the darkness. Not as easy to make out what's making them as during the daytime.



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Versa
If a UFO wished to remain unseen at night it simply has to turn of its lights.
Therefore its safe to assume that a UFO with lights wishes to be seen or doesn't care if it is seen.

If UFO's (in this case extraterrestrial crafts) are happy to be seen then they should also be seen during daylight hours.

If ET doesn't mind being seen then why don't amateur astronomers see them and photograph them using their very good telescopes and cameras on a very regular basis?


Why aren't there any 100% undebunkable UFO pictures? Enough people own decent telescopes and cameras now....

There lies my problem


If you do any amount of reading of the serious UFO literature, you realize almost immediately that they ARE seen during daylight hours. Amateur astronomers DO see them and report them. There ARE photographs which have been extensively analyzed without being found to show any indications of manipulation or fakery. I'm not sure what you mean by "100% undebunkable" or how you think that could be achieved with any photograph of anything.



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