Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I don't see what's so ridiculous about this title:
The CIA/MOSSAD, AMAN/DIA did 9/11!
They are naming four different agencies that had involvement in 9/11. It's not like they are saying "Bush did 9/11" blaming it all on one person.
I searched for "Bush did 9/11" into the ATS search and found multiple threads, none of them named a hoax
Jesse Ventura: Bush and Cheney did 9/11: www.abovetopsecret.com...
NOT labeled a hoax
9/11: the feds did it: www.abovetopsecret.com...
NOT labeled a hoax.
I think these thread titles are more ridiculous than the Mossad title. I mean "the feds did it" is blaming the entire federal government, including
postal workers. And "Bush and Cheney" did it is ridiculously assuming two people could pull off the entire conspiracy.
So what have you to say to that?
I think if you reread my Original Post in the thread that claims of absolute proof should be avoided.
So some more examples might help you better appreciate or consider what I am trying to convey...
Bush Did 9-11 could just as easy be Bush Did 9-11?
Versus "Proof" or "Absolute Proof" Bush Did 9-11.
One can be percieved as a question...Bush Did 9-11, or as an opinion Bush Did 9-11
The other can't because it's being put forth as an absolute claim "Proof Bush did 9-11" or "Absolute Proof Bush did 9-11" those are not opinions
or open ended statements and questions, those are claims, that then can be weighed and judged on the evidence being presented.
As I said if it's not sufficient evidence to meet a court of law threshhold and some politically inspired group or independent group of 'super
skeptics' objects, then yes it's going to get hoaxed.
No use being mad at me about that, I don't own the site, and I don't make it's rules, I simply try to observe the rules, and how the site is run,
and things like what leads something to being hoaxed and what doesn't.
As I mentioned it's usually about the verbiage in the Title or opening piece that makes something not an opinion and not an open ended question but
an absolute claim.
For instance the title of this thread.
Abolish the hoax forum or risk losing credibility forever, ATS... might lead some to ask, who are the people that believe this, is it a personal
statement, meaning the Original Poster will no longer view the site as credible, or a general opinion that no one will?
I am not going to believe ATS has lost credibility because of the hoax forum, so it's not really a title that speaks for my opinion.
Because of the vague way it's worded I can pretty much see it's a personal opinion, albeit one others might share, but had it said...
"Proof that if ATS does not Abolish the Hoax Forum or it will loose Credibility forever", I would expect to see proof that I and everyone else is
actually feeling that way or thinking that way.
So what am I really saying?
Watch what you put in your Titles and opening pieces, avoid absolute claims of proof if you don't have the proof.
9 out of 10 times when I see something get hoaxed it's because someone has made absolute claims.
That's a valid observation and why you would be angry because of that is hard to say.