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Is there any way to ethically destroy Monsanto?

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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 02:36 PM
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** Mods (didn't know where to specifically post this, so if it needs moving, then I guess you guys would know where)

Just wondering if there is a specific way to ethically bring down the Monsanto Corp.

They have their tentacles in with Law firms, the US Gov, they're trying to invade EU with GMO crops, Indian farmer suicides because of them, USDA in their pocket ...I mean its just insanely disgusting that this company is still free to reign and do what-ever they please.

What can be done to stop them?


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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Stop them? no. They are a hydra.

One can stall or fragment them, though.. But it would require populist uprisings akin to what has happened in Egypt.


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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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One can stall or fragment them, though.. But it would require populist uprisings akin to what has happened in Egypt.

So your saying a revolution/uprising and an ensuing storming of all their offices and homes and destroying the corporation that way? Would that be considered ethical however?



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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Yes, I would consider that ethical.. especially if it is peacefully done. If there is violence it should only come from the Monsanto goons.

But yeah, I think mass protests outside Monsanto plants and commercial farms. Blockading of trucks, etc.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Yes there are not one but a couple of ways of bringing them down.

First - is anti-monopoly laws here in the USA. There are only about ten food corporations left in the world. Monsanto should have been taken apart a long long time ago.

Second - A MASSIVE lawsuit by every farmer in every state and country that has been the subject of intimidation by Monsanto in order to get them to sign secrecy agreements. If "Force" or threats were used to get people to sign those contracts they are NOT legal.

Third: India should bring suit against Monsanto for the murder/suicide of her farmers.


PURDUE UNIV - THE GLOBALIZATION OF CORPORATE CRIME: FOOD AND AGRICULTURAL CARTELS OF THE 1990s - March 1, 2003



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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Grow your own heirloom plants. You can reuse the seeds...Hit them where it hurts...in the wallet.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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There is only one slightly possible way in the America of today.

Since Corporations now have all the rights of Individuals, one must hold them legally responsible
for their destructive actions by bringing them into a (uncorrupted?) court, find them guilty of their
many felony's and then give them the death penalty by completely dissolving them as a Corporate
entity.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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Grow your own heirloom plants. You can reuse the seeds...Hit them where it hurts...in the wallet.

that wouldnt do anything .....what they want to do is genetically modify and hold patents on everything grown so there is a HUGE monopoly over all food farmed ...since their GMO seeds infect and hybridize with other seeds.

plus they use GOV, lawyers, and mafia like intimidation tactics on bulk farmers....it is those bulk farmers that need to fight back.

I was thinking of perhaps getting Triads or other major heavy handed major global players involved somehow. Get Anon involved, 4chan, Wikileaks, etc

It would have to be an all out assualt from all angles. Class action law suits, anti-monopoly laws, law firms, major funding, Triads, Anonymous/4Chan, heavy duty protests at the main Corp and all subsidiaries, protest everyone attached to the Company....



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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Class actions on many fronts could do it. The way they have treated farmers, scientists, public, government and other nations is despicable, we have them here in Australia as well. You are going to need a collection of scientific studies showing how data has been biased and manipulated. It will help getting whistle blowers in the scientific community to testify how pressure has been exerted. The decline of bees and male sterility from GM crops look to be two strong influences from GMO. As for how the FDA has been owned by Monsanto, more needs to be exposed there publicly to help turn around the new laws that are trying to kill off the small and medium size farms. I am sure the farmers would have plenty of nasty stories, if they form some class actions on the systematic treatment it will make for a fairer legal fight. Wikileaks has also exposed some of the political arm twisting for Monsanto Internationally and helps provide some other groups around the world cause to launch their cases. Monsanto has really deep pockets and lots of resources, it is going to take a lot to wear them down, but with enough legal battles it will at least tarnish their image and make it harder for them to take any new ground.

For Monsanto to get voted the most evil company in the world two years in a row there is a lot there to help bring them down. If they are to become the most sued company in the world it is going to hurt them, ethically.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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...Monsanto has really deep pockets and lots of resources, it is going to take a lot to wear them down, but with enough legal battles it will at least tarnish their image and make it harder for them to take any new ground.....


Probably the absolute worst thing about Monsanto is how it is actually set up. 85% of the shares are held by mutual funds. This means Financiers like the Johnson's use the money from pensions and normal people to buy the stock but they VOTE the stock. They are in a win-win situation because they get paid no mater what AND they get control but others foot the bill.

The Johnson family owns several different mutual funds as you can see here:


....Devonshire Street, Boston, Massachusetts 02109, a wholly- owned subsidiary of FMR LLC and an investment adviser registered under Section 203 of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940, is the beneficial owner of 26,388,306 shares or 4.816% of the Common Stock outstanding of Monsanto Company ("the Company") as a result of acting as investment adviser to various investment companies registered under Section 8 of the Investment Company Act of 1940.

Edward C. Johnson 3d and FMR LLC, through its control of Fidelity, and the funds each has sole ower to dispose of the 26,388,306 shares owned by the Funds.

Members of the family of Edward C. Johnson 3d, Chairman of FMR LLC, are the predominant owners, directly or through trusts, of Series B voting common shares of FMR LLC, representing 49% of the voting power of FMR LLC....

Strategic Advisers, Inc., 82 Devonshire Street, Boston, MA 02109, a wholly-owned subsidiary of FMR LLC and an investment adviser registered under Section 203 of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940, provides investment advisory services to individuals. As such, FMR LLC's beneficial ownership includes 191,725 shares, or 0.035%, of the Common Stock stock outstanding of Monsanto Company, beneficially owned through Strategic Advisers, Inc.

Pyramis Global Advisors, LLC ("PGALLC"), 53 State Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02109, an indirect wholly- owned subsidiary of FMR LLC and an investment adviser registered under Section 203 of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940, is the beneficial owner of 262,080 shares or 0.048% of the outstanding Common Stock of Monsanto Company as a result of its serving as investment adviser to institutional accounts, non-U.S. mutual funds, or investment companies registered under Section 8 of the Investment Company Act of 1940 owning such shares.

Edward C. Johnson 3d and FMR LLC, through its control of PGALLC, each has sole dispositive power over 262,080 shares and sole power to vote or to direct the voting of 262,080 shares of Common Stock owned by the institutional accounts or funds advised by PGALLC as reported
above....

idc.api.edgar-online.com...?SessionID=csbHWxGCWm3FTfS&ID=6419107



People do not even KNOW their money is being used to buy Monsanto stock. In a mutual fund you get to chose the "risk factor" and whether you want to be in "high tech stock" but you never know the name of the company your cash was invested in. The Banker/Financiers have found another way to take control.


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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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one of the purposes of a corporation is to serve as a mask behind which
the stockholders hide,and avoid accountability.

just find out who the stockholders are,
then we'll know who to go after



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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It seems to me that Monsanto has amassed to much power to topple them. They're in bed with a highly corrupt government, so until the people decide to revolt in mass, I'd have to say: no chance in hell.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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Well when Monsanto sent GM Grain seed to Haitian farmers after the quake.

The farmers just burnt the lot!

Perhaps the activist's who go around exposing bad animal farming practices could start
looking into monsanto seed warehouses.
Let It Burn

...
Upon arrival, these rewarded farmers took their collective Easter baskets of more than 400 tons of vegetable seeds and burned them all. "Long live the native maize seed!" they chanted in unison. "Monsanto's GMO & hybrid seed violate peasant agriculture!"
...


Despite all the tech thats out in the world for the masses, you have to get off your @ss to make your point
edit on 12-2-2011 by CitizenNum287119327 because: spelling



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 11:05 PM
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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 11:09 PM
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someone signs a deal with monsantos , knowingly thier gunna screw you over..but find a way, to secretly change the modified gentics of the plants back to naturaly genetic coded plants, and let monstanos think its thier stuff, when its your stuff. screw with em..bet thiers a legal loophole somewhere where YOU could take them to court for once, and win in such a manner..that would be the iceiing on the cake!!



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 12:30 AM
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no one is gonna beat these guys in court...that is a pipe dream...only a massive revolt could stop them...which is more unethical, to stop evil by any means necessary, or to look the other way while the entire planet is destroyed by nefarious goons?...i suggest doing nothing is far more unethical than ANY action could be...



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 12:50 AM
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Yes. So these are the steps.

1. Document everything and store in multiple locations (Including online) newspaper articles as well. Everything.
2. PR against them in the form of Blogs, Websites and social media.
3. Protests and lawsuits.
4. Letters to the papers and meetings with public officials, elected officials executives from Monsanto.
5. Ultimately though they'll only be taken down from the inside and with victims stepping forward.

What we need are whistle blowers. Why isn't someone sending stuff to WikiLeaks?



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 04:54 AM
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Wikileaks has stuff on montsanto already. And rupert murdock, among other names...



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 06:33 AM
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When it comes to montsanto f ethics. Whatever is necessary in this case at this point. You wouldn't question the ethics of killing the devil. And if our gov can incite people to break the law and murder assange I feel ok with inciting everyone to do watever is necessary to rid the world of montsanto.


Don't go after the tentacles go after the HEAD. They hide behind "Monsanto" is "owned" by pension funds but as I showed in the Above post that is NOT who CONTROLS it!



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