Originally posted by MissTiger
In my opinion no, well not in the UK. We are so sedated by what we have in this country, what we own, the freedom that we have and why wouldn't we
be? We do not live in poverty as some people do in Egypt and many other countries, we are able to vote, able to buy what we want, we don't walk
outside and see an army tank driving down the street.
While it is true that many Britons own material wealth, it is also the case that merely living in this nation costs well above what it ought to, and
costs enough that many people reach a point where they can do no more to better thier position. I myself work for a family business, and I am looking
at the prospect of not being able to afford to move out of my mothers flat, until I am thirty five/forty , dependant on how well our business goes.I
am currently 25. If I were in regular employment with another firm, I would be looking at having no prospect of leaving home whatsoever, since prices
where I live are so high that a whole months salary couldnt rent a single bedroom flat, and since if I moved elsewhere in order to benifit from
cheaper prices, I would have to leave the job I am currently doing for my family, removing my ability to pay rent at all. Even with the aid of
government housing benifit, I would still live in what amounts to poverty just in order to pay bills and a smaller share of the rent. This is not
acceptable. A person should not have to rely on government to pay thier rent, yet my situation is not unusual in this nation.
You mention also freedom. What freedom do we have when all the leaders of all the big parties went to basicaly the same schools, Eaton and so on, had
affluent beginings, and all went to the highest universities in the land? If there is freedom, where are the street sweepers in Parliament? Where are
the dockers, the pizza delivery boys, the volunteers who can afford nothing , but the time they spend helping people?Where are they represented in
government ? The answer is they , we , are not. Government is full of incredibly wealthy people, who either have never known actual hardship, or
forgot what it felt like WELL before they attained any measure of power. I want to see a Primeminister who thinks a slap up meal is having cheese on
his beans on toast not through eccentricity, but because thats all he knows. Where are my people represented? They are not.
We get to choose which suit is screwing us next, and little else in this country. Its either Labour spending money like its going out of fashion, or
the blasted Conservatives trying to kill off the old and the poor and the weak with a murder weapon shaped like austerity measures. Its always the
same, it never changes no matter which bunch of liars you vote for, and it stinks and needs to change.
We have clean water and medical care. There are people across the world that would give their lives and have done for what we have. The students
protested about fees, what about in countries where they protest just to have to right to an education?
But we ARENT other nations. This is Britain and to put not too fine a point on it, we expect, nay demand forward progress from government in all
things , at all times, and we pay enough in tax and revenue that we ought to expect that demand to be fulfilled. The students protested for the rights
not only of themselves, but more accurately for future generations. Hell, they think there WILL be problems with social mobility in the future, but
when I was leaving school I had no HOPE of going to University , even though I had the nouse, simply because even going back 9 years I wouldnt have
been able to afford it. I dread to think about how off putting the frankly insane debts that one saddles oneself with these days must be to less well
off kids of this new generation!
With regards to the middle class, so they are only going to be able to eat out just once a week. If there is going to be any protests it will come
from people on benefits but hasn't that system of free money for nothing gone on long enough? My fear is that the more benefits that are cut the
higher our crime rate will rise.
The middle class can look after themselves quite frankly, they usualy do. I do however, find your remarks about those on benifit to be slightly crass
and insensitive. The system of "free money for nothing" doesnt exist. Its not free. I was on unemployment benifit, or Jobseekers Allowance, for one
I can assure you , that the errosion of ones self respect that comes with being in that unfortunate position is actualy completely devastating to ones
confidence. One might think that going to a box in a wall, stating your name, number, and intent to seek work is easy, but when you are actualy doing
it, with barely enough to feed yourself for a week, supposedly meant to last you a fortnight, you realise that the money is not "for nothing". This
is money paid to a person who is unable to find work. I am not a lazy man, I searched high and low for work, initialy work that payed a decent salary
, but eventualy anything, just ANYTHING to not be on JSA and not to feel like crap about myself all damned day. There was nothing out there ,
I was one of the lucky ones, my family had begun a business during this time, and offered me a position, one I have taken to with some aplomb and
flair though I say it myself, and that has been the case for 6 years now. However, due to my expiriences, I can tell you that it is NOT the norm for
people to be on benifits for the kicks, or because its easier than making an effort. It isnt . Life is ten times easier now (though still difficult
what with the ecconomic climate and so on) than it ever was when I was on JSA, and you know why? Because I dont wake up wishing I was dead, I dont
walk around with red rimmed eyes and bags under my eyes because I have been inconsolable and despondant any more. I do not spend my days running
myself RAGGED around town looking for crappy jobs that would make me worse off than I was on benifit, because I was lucky.
There arent enough jobs for everyone, and until they are, people who are happily employed may feel free to shut the hell up about the unemployed, and
the benifits recipients, because evidently they know NOTHING about these people, or how "easy" they have it.