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James Clapper, the head of intelligence for the United States of America, has explained to Congress that the Muslim Brotherhood is “largely secular.” It further has “eschewed violence,” decries al-Qaeda as a “perversion of Islam,” and really just wants “social ends” and “a betterment of the political order in Egypt.”
This is the Muslim Brotherhood whose motto brays that the Koran is its law and jihad is its way. The MB whose Palestinian branch, the terrorist organization Hamas, was created for the specific purpose of destroying Israel — the goal its charter says is a religious obligation. It is the organization dedicated to the establishment of Islamicized societies and, ultimately, a global caliphate. It is an organization whose leadership says al-Qaeda’s emir, Osama bin Laden, is an honorable jihad warrior who was “close to Allah on high” in “resisting the occupation.”
I think a thread was already posted about the same subject.
What you say here "Dub" is, a twist on the situation, but neverthless is the situation twisted. The religious facets are constantly coming together and breaking apart as part of the larger chess scheme to infiltrate the way of life- the economy and culture- and replicate feudalist/serfdom based society because it tailors to 'their' standards of leisure/life and general upkeep of the levels of power. If you look back through the history of "US Foreign Policy" you will notice a pattern that seems to be about religion, but it is really more about the maintenance of the blueprint for conquering.
It belies the administration's refusal to accept and address the fact that an Islamic religious movement influences a large part of the politics the U. S. must cope with or concede to in its larger political aims.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by jdub297
Actually, the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood HAS renounced violence. Decades ago, in fact.
As with any political organization, stating a "principle," and adhering to a tenet are two different matters.
Much as I hate to cite Wikipedia as a "source," the history continues:
... [S]tarting in 1936, it began to oppose British rule in Egypt. Many Egyptian nationalists accuse the Brotherhood of violent killings during this period. ...
"General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" makes the objectives of the MB clear: "The process of settlement is a 'Civilization-Jihadist Process' with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions."
And it has nothing to do with Hamas, good lord.
Hamas grew out of the Muslim Brotherhood, a religious and political organization founded in Egypt with branches throughout the Arab world.
Sorry if your beliefs differ from fact. Maybe you could seek employment at the State Dept. or the "Intelligence" community?
Go to a library. You'll find more there than a rag like the "National Review" will ever be able to tell you
I have. You're wrong.
The Brotherhood has not only described itself as an Islamist group, committed to implementing Sharia law, it spawned Egyptian Islamic Jihad -- which offed Anwar Sadat in 1981 and later joined forces with al Qaeda. Another Brotherhood offshoot is Hamas, the terrorist group that holds Gaza in its bloody grip. It's no fan of the Camp David peace accords with Israel, either.
One reason the Brotherhood’s commitment to nonviolence is unclear: The original Egyptian organization has spawned branches in 70 countries. These organizations bear the Brotherhood name, but their connections to the founding group vary and some of them may provide financial, logistical, or other support to terrorist organizations. Some terrorist groups—including Hamas, Jamaat al-Islamiyya, and al-Qaeda—have historic and ideological affiliations with the Egyptian Brotherhood. In addition, some of the world’s most dangerous terrorists were once Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood members, including Osama bin Laden’s top deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri. The organization is like “stepping stone,” says Evan Kohlmann, an international terrorism consultant. “[For] someone who is interested in dedicating their lives to a radical Islamist cause, it can be a pathway up…to a more serious dealing with Islam.”
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by type0civ
Ahhhhh I see! .. So because the group donates to other Islamic causes like Hammas etc that the West doesn't "agree" with, whether because of violence or political stance, they must be a stepping stone into terrorism.
I like that logic.
US clueless about Egypt?
Senate hearing turns into farce as American ignorance on Egypt situation revealed; specific agenda of Muslim Brotherhood unclear, top official says, has trouble responding to question on group’s attitude to peace with Israel
WASHINTON – A senate hearing Wednesday revealed that top US intelligence agencies are largely ignorant about the current situation in Egypt and unfamiliar with the agenda of the country’s radical Islamists.
"It's hard to at this point to point to a specific agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood as a group," National Intelligence Director James Clapper told senators. When asked about the group’s attitude to Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel, he said this was a difficult question before assessing “they are not in favor of the treaty.”
Asked about the Muslim Brotherhood’s position on weapons smuggling to Hamas in Gaza, Clapper said he was unaware of the group’s declared stance on the issue. He said that a wait-and-see attitude was also required before determining the Muslim Brotherhood’s position on Iran.