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Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by Pimander
The garbage is not there by chance. Do you really think normal people spend hour after hour of their time posting garbage UFO footage and reports on the internet? Is that really likely?
Your right They are not normal but they aren't government agents either+. Just look at the average youtube commenter and you have your answer
Originally posted by IsaacKoi
At the moment, there seems to me to be fairly wide divide between the search and technological abilities of members of some Internet forums and the use of such tools by the older and more established members of the UFO research community. Perhaps these things simply take quite a while to get adopted by people that are, presumably, on average somewhat older than the members of ATS.
But can't the divide be bridged so that younger, more energetic and technologically savvy work more closely with the older and most experienced researchers?
Originally posted by Kandinsky
I like your idea of more experienced researchers working in tandem with younger people, but where are they? I can’t think of a known researcher any younger than mid-40s. If there’s an absence of young blood, there’s also an absence of new ideas despite the internet. When was the last new idea? It wasn’t Mac Tonnies’ ‘cryptoterrestrials’ as that was a reinvention of an older idea. All I can think of is the '___' explanation or the Interdimensional Hypothesis and they’ve been around since before I was born.
Originally posted by Pimander
Originally posted by Ghost of America
I've recently read Graham Hancock's Supernatural and a lot of that fit with what was/is going on with me. Maybe a surplus of '___'? I do feel now that there is a force out there that we can't begin to imagine. It's trying to say hello...or something.
Yes, drugs are one of the examples of tools for induction of certain altered sleep (i.e. altered consciousness) states. Ketamine and '___' are especially interesting examples. Ketamine combined with hallucinogens like '___' can cause out of body experiences and near death experiences. Galantamine has been used to induce lucid dreaming which is one characteristic of the abduction scenario.edit on 22/1/11 by Pimander because: typo
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Originally posted by IsaacKoi
It seems to me (although I wonder if others share my perception) that the rate of turnover of those interested in UFO research has increased and with it the amount of reinvention of the wheel.
Originally posted by The Shrike
Originally posted by Pimander
And you have proven nothing. Therefore I can only conclude that your claim that that abductions are ALL a mental construction is nothing but an assertion and hearsay. Why don't you gather some evidence, as I have, then come back with your proof?
(snip)
You haven't really gathered any evidence, what you have gathered are reports which is another word for hearsay. Besides, I'm not making claims that I have to support. I'm questioning such claims therefore the onus is on the claimant to support such claims with real evidence. And enough scholars have reported that like it was said in "YELLOW SUBMARINE", "It's all in the mind".
Future of UFOlogy?
UFOlogy's future lies in the extent of its ability to evaluate and capitalize upon its past and current achievements; to pose the right questions on pressing issues; and to organize its eternally limited resources logically and efficiently toward arriving at timely, comprehensive answers.The CUFON Interview
Originally posted by Kandinsky
There doesn’t seem to be the same frequency of significant sightings or persuasive evidence appearing. From the ‘40s and into the ‘70s, major cases occurred almost every year with waves and flaps making some years stand out further. As we drifted into the late 80s and the beginnings of the Internet Age, UFO incidents have tailed off in significance even as sightings have apparently increased.
I like your idea of more experienced researchers working in tandem with younger people, but where are they? I can’t think of a known researcher any younger than mid-40s.
When was the last new idea? It wasn’t Mac Tonnies’ ‘cryptoterrestrials’ as that was a reinvention of an older idea.
Originally posted by Pimander
So Isaac, how do you suggest we organise our resources?
Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by IsaacKoi
I have an easier way to do the research...
Can you please link me to your best cases?
Originally posted by NavalFC
The organizations you mentioned acted as the crap buffer, as a way for people to make that loon/ researcher distinction. That wall has come down.