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Originally posted by Jinglelord
reply to post by Chai_An
What a person can't do is say that their core moral is sustainability and then preach meat eating. That is hypocritical.
Originally posted by Lightrule
True or false:
A lion will eat a deer to feed itself and survive?
A man will eat a cow to feed itself and survive?
A lion shoots the deer in the head painlessly killing it before eating it ALIVE?
A man... oh you get the idea.
Gain a little perspective please.
Murder - n.
1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
2. Slang Something that is very uncomfortable, difficult, or hazardous: The rush hour traffic is murder.
3. A flock of crows.
Originally posted by droid56
But I have to ask if there is any difference between the heinous sled dog massacre, and what happens in slaughter houses every day? The trauma and fear experienced by the animals is probably similar. Sorry meat-eaters, but this is true.
Originally posted by Jinglelord
reply to post by krimletch
So the real difference I see between the lion and the man is that the man will kill a healthy animal in its prime while the lion kills the old and weak. That is the circle of life, not the wholesale slaughter of animals in their prime...
Originally posted by alonzo730
I vacillate between vegetarianism and meat eating. I try to eat a balanced diet. I try to cook my food. I believe the human body can utilize nutrients better when the food is cooked.
Originally posted by krimletch
The difference between a lion and a man, is that the lion chases its prey to take it down. The man raises a prey just to kill it later on in its life to eat it.
So the difference here, is that for the lion, the other animal has a life and a chance to escape. The man raises the animal, meaning that it doesn't have a life to live (besides slaughter) and it can't run away.
Originally posted by Blazer
There have been numerous studies (including the show MythBusters) that show that plants feel pain.
how much difference is there in you chewing up the body of a plant that was "murdered" to be on your plate and a carnivore chewing up the body of an animal that also died to become food?
Plant Brain: Each root apex harbours a unit of nervous system of plants. The number of root apices in the plant body is high and all brain-units are interconnected via vascular strands (plant nerves) with their polarly-transported auxin (plant neurotransmitter), to form a serial (parallel) nervous system of plants. The computational and informational capacity of this nervous system based on interconnected parallel units is predicted to be higher than that of the diffuse nervous system of lower animals, or the central nervous system of higher animals/humans.
DALLAS--Research scientists at Baylor Medical Center have proven that plants, including vegetables, feel pain when subjected to trauma such as being yanked out of the ground, peeled, cooked, and eaten. "Veggies and plants initiate a massive hormone and chemical barrage internally when they suffer any kind of injury," says professor Barry Lindzer. "This response is akin to the nerve response and endorphin release when an animal is injured.
is not new: botanists have known for a long time that plants have defensive mechanisms. But in June 2002, researchers in Bonn found that plants emit ethylene gas when under attack. The scientists also attached microphones to the vegetation and observed that whereas the plants normally emitted a bubbling sound, under attack from insects, they gave off piercing screeches. Scientists at the Baylor University Medical Centre in Dallas have measured the chemical response of plants to being pulled up, peeled, cooked and eaten. The results, said Professor Barry Lindzer, showed that "plants initiate a massive hormone and chemical barrage internally when they suffer any kind of injury". He continued: "This response is akin to the nerve response and endorphin release when an animal is injured. We cannot ignore the similarities." Scientists from Michigan State University say that plants have a rudimentary nerve structure that allows them to feel pain. "The nervous system is undeveloped, but it is there."