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The real terrorist was me - A US Soldier

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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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Huh...I guess I am just mentally stronger than some, I served in Iraq and Afghanistan am a Sniper. From my vantage point I saw the faces of the targets (packages) I eliminated. I dont see there faces when I sleep, I sleep peaceful and easy. I served my country and did my job, now I had the luxury of targeting specific individuals that are known suspected terrorists and by my observations (you see we 0318's observe a lot) they got what they needed to be sent to hell. Again my principle tagets were picked...I never shot kids or innocents and neither did 99% of the Marines I servered with. I never witnessed woman or children slaughtered, but then again I spent my time focused on my mission but when I did provide cover support for the fire teams I did not witness abuse...

Maybe I was lucky to not see this, 2 tours in Iraq and 2 in Afghanistan...now I am a System engineer getting ready for LATAM to run out of IPv4 addresses this year as did Europe this week...I am mentally stable, no night sweats, dont cry in the corner...

I do feel for you poor guys that are broken up inside cry'ng, weeping etc... but you are not the first nor last nor the only one out there that feels this way. I suggest get a job, take up a hobby and get over your issues with the war or it will consume and destroy what little time you have on earth enjoying the good things.

Remember enjoy your time in this living plane as we will have to answer for our actions in the after life...for which I am having too much fun to deal with now...

PS: my last year in the corp I had Lymphoma stage 3d chest and spleen, now have minor asthma from the radiation treatment, acid reflux, esophageal spasms.etc....and I still live life to the fullest without whining or complaining. We were soldiers not metrosexual's or scarred puppy dogs. We knew what we signed up for, if you did not know you are a complete MORON.




posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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OH AND I AM NOT A TERRORIST NOR HAVE EVER BEEN ONE...



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by Ghandi
And no, I am not "against the troops", I'm against the people who deploy them.


exactly.

terrorists have always been fought with intelligence agencies.
edit on 12-2-2011 by conar because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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War is not a pretty thing. Sudden violent death is very very ugly. I've seen the worst that human beings can do to each other. The after affects of armed conflict have had a horrible toll on my family. I have a very fresh memory of my poor old grandmother being handed a neatly folded flag from my uncles casket 3 years ago, after he blew his head off. My uncle served with USMC Recon from 1967-71, multiple tours in Vietnam. I haven't forgotten being a kid and attending another uncles funeral after he had blown his brains out, and again, he was also a Vietnam veteran. I've attended 5 other funerals, who's fathers had served in Vietnam, could not shake off whatever was drilled into them, and they finally blew their brains out. These were all good men, at heart, but very very troubled by something that no one could ever really pin down. I am opposed to our conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, for numerous reasons, the number one reason being, that another generation of warriors will come home tormented very self destructive. Our current returning warriors seem to have the same issues and I find this to be very unacceptable. What appear to be psychological problems, cannot be overcome with sheer willpower, if that were the case, all of these young men/women would overcome them if the fix were so simple.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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Just a question.

Do you think that many of the problems vets are having nowadays could be linked to peoples absolute hatred of the government?
They see vets as a diect link, and since the nearest vet is two feet away vs. a DC pol who is 2 thousand miles away, they attack the vet?

It is the angry people back home that have more issues than the returning vets.
Hell, sometimes all we want is a hug.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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Important video! nice to see some sane people speaking out against the lies behind the insane war of Iraq!


Problem is that the MSM in the US and the UK were sanitising and editing their broadcasts from Iraq - the people in the US were not allowed to see on their TV-news the REAL & RAW photage from the theatres of war (they apparently learned this lesson after the Vietnam war)

Whereas in the rest of Europe and the world we often got to see the un-edited effects of the Iraq war directly on our TV sets in our livingrooms - we didn't have to watch the sanitised and censored US/UK version of the events.

Perhaps this un-sanitised and un-censored news coverage from Iraq & Afghanistan made us more Anti-war in general?




Another similar video from 'The Paradigm Shift' that was posted here earlier on ATS

What You Didn't Know About The War



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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There has never been a truer word spoken.

Thing is not every soldier is like this guy, most actually love what they are doing and some revel in the violence they are committing.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Why are you trolling this guy?

second line



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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this soldier is truly brave now because he's standing up against the people who sent him to war .who knows maybe he'll help the people that he once terrorized , they need brave people , not mc donalds.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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So true buddy. Care goes a long way.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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What an inspiring video. Star and flag to you!

How true that weapons are useless if we choose not to use them. The same can be said for the pen.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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I agree. Unfortunatly many 3rd world countries don't see it that way. I still am very pro war. After everything, war is still very useful and realistic. At the same time there is a time and a place for war, and now isn't the time and Iraq is not the place. We have far too many issues on our homeland. There will be a time where we will need to fight, whether on our soil, or another, but this is not the right time. WE trained the police, WE trained officers, and WE removed the tyrant from power. What excuse is left? We need our soldiers at home.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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We are all slaves the sooner we realize it the better, divide and conquer is their plan no matter what religion or belief your from its all the same plan to use Us for their evil plans they twisted the truth beyond recognition our past they took away and without the past there is no future. We need to keep putting those pieces together because we are all going to suffer if you havent already.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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I think you probly went over to defend your country and those you loved from what you felt was an attack on them. that's a natural feeling based on caring for those you love and not something to be ashamed of. everyone would try to defend those they love if they were attacked.

you're not the terrorist. its those that cynically allow troops to be deployed into wars they create for their own means who are the real terrorists.

govts that involve their countries in unjust wars; particulalry if they're funding both sides; just to create disharmony and enhance their own control over society.

and if troops wake up as you have done; to what is really being asked of them; if they realised on both sides what was really going on - that those at the top were making them fight each other when they really probly had no quarrel wiht each other; then all the fighting would stop.

like in ww2 in germany when troops on both sides got out of the trenches and went and talked to each other; sang songs and played games.

that's the truth coming out - that we dont really hate each other after all.

we're just being manipulated into thinking we do by people with pretty much no morals or consciences who unfortunately are running our govts and societies.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Screwed
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You can choose what you want to be remembered by!
No one is stopping you from creating a new account and re inventing yourself as the person you WANT to be remembered as and someone that YOU are proud of.

As it stands right now it is pretty evident what you are proud of and people are not going to go "read your thread" just to find out why you chose your user name.

Suck it up butter cup.
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and become a person you are proud of.

If I chose the user name "ILIKEGAYPORN" I'm not going to expect people to go read a thread I wrote about it explaining why I chose that user name. I would expect that people are going to assume that:

1. I like gay porn and
2. I am proud of it.

I say this out of a good place in my heart and am not trying to bust your balls.
You are who you want to be.
and you will be remembered the way you choose to be remembered.

Good luck brother!


stop being an '***hole to this guy. he's coming to terms wiht a lot of crap; and your attitude to him is childish.

what have you been thru that's so tough; and that gives you the right to prance about and belittle others who are going thru a lot.

pathetic.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 05:54 PM
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I'm glad you're feeling better. I met someone here on ATS too that got me through something really, really hard. It's darkest before the dawn sometimes. I'm glad you're getting through it and I thank you for your time and service. I know first hand what it's like living with someone who survived war. Yeah, survived cuz that's what you did.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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Star for you - right on!

Why people sign up for the profession of arms knowing they are going to have to prosecute violence upon whomever the government designates as the enemy - I will never know.

Perhaps Soldiers (and Marines) who serve in elite positions and units are different but your experience and mine are pretty much the same as are those of the men I served with in SF.

Self pity is not a luxury for some people I guess.



posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 06:01 PM
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reply tI do feel for you poor guys that are broken up inside cry'ng, weeping etc... but you are not the first nor last nor the only one out there that feels this way. I suggest get a job, take up a hobby and get over your issues with the war or it will consume and destroy what little time you have on earth enjoying the good things.
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It's nice to see someone who can handle the horrors of war with grace and kindness to those around them. You are exceptional.
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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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I am both for and against this message...for good soldiers to run with this and put on a shamefull persona is nothing more than what the Veitnam soldiers endured when coming home ...Yes there is a difference,this time its self inflicted...A soldier needs to stick to his mission statement to keep his head strait. And aways be able to justify to himself, a court and to God his actions. I know full well this paragraph goes back and forth . The speech I just listened to pulls me in both directions...

"I dont need your civil war" guns-n-roses "whats so civil about war anyway"

Ha ha to me, I dont have an answer !
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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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amazing video.

he speaks the truth.





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