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Originally posted by mnemeth1
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
So why do Ron Paulers continue to attend CPAC? A political coalition that had backed individuals like Rumsfeld time and time again?
Because legislation makes it next to impossible for a third party to compete
What do you expect them to do?
Go sulk in a corner?
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Southern Guardian
Due to the number of DEMOCRATS that voted to extend the PA, it was the 22 tea-party Republicans that actually blocked the legislation.
Open your eyes, and you'll see the party leaders are of the same fascist breed.
There were politicians from both sides who supported and voted against the patriot act extensions so why did you leave this fact out?
Apparently he and other ron paul supporters have no choice but to vote republican.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Southern Guardian
There were politicians from both sides who supported and voted against the patriot act extensions so why did you leave this fact out?
Do you mind explaining exactly how I left anything out? You just repeated exactly what I said.
The PA was nearly extended with Democrat help: Fact.
It failed by 7 votes: Fact
71 Democrats voted in FAVOR of the extensions: Fact
You see that the leaders of both parties attempted to get a vote to extend the provisions.
Democrats only voted against it because it's a Republican created measure..
Why would a Ron Paul supporter vote for anything other than Libertarian, Congressional or Republican? Those are our main options. Democrats, Green or Socialist would be polar opposites.
Just like Neocons infiltrated the Republican party in the 1980's,
Worried? Haha. Is that what you imagine.
Originally posted by stephinrazin
Wow. That was great. You know when the crowd starts USA USA that means some of the crowd are saying something deemed unfit for public consumption. Did you see that look between Cheney, and the fellow behind him. You could see the fear and discomfort in the other man's eyes. It would have been unthinkable a few years ago for a heckler to call Cheney a war criminal at CPAC!!
Originally posted by jonnywhite
Originally posted by stephinrazin
Btw, that USA USA USA is something more people need to chant.
Really? I think it makes americans look a bit stupid when they all start chanting that at war criminals
edit on 11-2-2011 by woodwardjnr because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by adifferentbreed
Nope, it applies to all of them. Its called the 2 party, 1 party system.
It's both parties, but according to that picture I only see the Obama administration. What message are you sending here? And yes, I do believe both parties are behind the wars and behind such policies as the patriot act, but it seems voters are more than happy to continue to play to either.
Me personally? I'm done with the Democratic party as a whole. I believe there are some Democrats and even some Republicans making a stand, but the two parties as a collective do not seem represent what this country needs. Maybe I assumed things would change and representitives would come to their senses, would make a stand and admit they were wrong, but nothing appears to be changing. We desperately need a movement of alternative parties...