I read the other thread of yours, that ghohua linked, just scan read your OP and a bit of the responses.
Yeah, the politics people here - alot have their ideas 'set in stone' and they want to 'pitch' those and argue against others.
Some are just stubborn, some may be the fabled "dis info agents".
I stay away from such discussions for the most part - as - I figure - people who have their mind made up, and/or ideas in stone - yes - you cannot
really change them - or even try to explain things either.
No matter what the subject - if people don't want to hear the other side - they'll not bother to listen. Or only enough to launch into their own
Maybe try to read and participate in some other things here, there are alot of other topics. And - if you are interested in politics or social issues
or government etc - there are people too who do engage in serious discussion on those things - you just have to wade through alot of crap to find them
Evidently even the UFO forums are full of "haters", "dis info", and crapola here too - so. As is the whole of Teh Innernets in general.
There are many Americans who do not really understand various political systems, let alone the underlying philosophy of them, this is a general net
forum - not a political science or government class. And many people only know what the Talking Head / Media Propagandizer of their choice has told
Would you try to discuss the properties of plastics, combined with food chemistry, to your dog? That only sees a food bowl?
You have to hunt for people with even a half a brain. Goes for this place too.
I hear what you're saying anyway, there's alot of 'negativity' all over the place. If I find myself getting sucked into it, I try to hang back a
bit and "rise above it".
And - direct that energy towards finding more worthwhile discussions here - and it goes for life in general too - avoid the boneheads.
Anyway, stick around, there are plenty of good people here and plenty of interesting ideas