Hackers Anonymous message to the United States Government! (Regarding Egypt), page 10


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reply posted on 11-2-2011 @ 03:10 AM by WhiteDevil013
reply to post by TechUnique


I've come to the conclusion that whattever the government thinks is the right course of action when it comes to foreign affairs is generally the opposite of what the people of that region actually want.

I hope the rest of the world does not judge the american people for the arrogant and reckless foreign policies of our corrupt politicians. Believe me, we are just as upset as the rest of the world, and although it appears we don't give a damn, we truly do. We care about what the rest of the world thinks about us, and I find the obnoxious and arrogant attitude of our government offensive and reprehensible.

There are many of us who are "awake," the sad part is the majority of voters are easily manipulated into whatever the popular opinion of the day happens to be.

The reason our government is afraid to show support for an organized uprising, is a matter of history. The french dhowed support and gave aid to the american revolutionary army out of hatred for the british, however the whole thing backfired on them when the french saw how the americans succesfully overthrew a super power with modest means, and shortly there after went about overthrowing the french monarchy. Although the way the french went about it was much more brutal, they beheaded TPTB.

Political power is a tricky thing. Think of a chess board that is a million times as large in size and complexity, and you will begin to see how difficult the decision making process truly is



reply posted on 11-2-2011 @ 04:12 AM by VitriolAndAngst
Originally posted by space cadet
Threads like this one make me want to leave ATS for good. Threats are serious business, threatening a government is even more so. I don't go along with either. I don't think we (ATS members) should be supporting a person or organization that makes threats such as this.


The common person in Egypt is constantly under threat from this "President for Life" -- he is a tyrant. They have no fair system to get rid of him.

Do Sociopath's who have created a system that only allows them free reign respond to suggestions? Egyptian's will not get this guy out of their lives unless the are willing to be very violent. Sure, there is a lot of "history" of passive resistance -- but it only seems to be embraced when there is a huge mob of people out for blood. Gandhi and MLK -- they all had millions who were going to murder the ruling class in their sleep -- so OF COURSE, the crooks in charge "embraced their compromises" because it meant them having SOME power and still being alive.

Government's outlaw these threats -- but when the establishment gets hijacked by what amounts to organized crime -- well, it's all about who can force their will. The founding fathers RECOGNIZED that in our Declaration of Independence. This country was TAKEN by the British -- even though we acted with honor, we were willing to kill British subjects to get our way. If the "Founding Fathers" had failed, they would have been hung like any mob of enemies of the crown.

>> Of course, saying it out-loud on a blog is ill advised.


reply posted on 11-2-2011 @ 04:59 AM by Seitler
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst


I'm glad you brought up the info about the Founding Fathers. Most people forget history when it does not directly apply to themselves. We as a nation (the US) we basically baptized by blood. I dislike that analogy because of the religious implications, BUT it is very fitting for the time.

No free people EVER became free without killing the people in power, or at least their soldiers. This has been the way of the world since the earliest civilized persons were around. Take an introductory course in anthropology to see what I am talking about. The only way to make those in power truly move out of their seats of control is simply to threaten their lives. Once they know they are dead if they stick around, they will leave. Even IF Mubarak is able to retain power, how many people will let him live in peace? After such a display of disapproval of his policies, I would not be surprised if he was simply assassinated even if he left the country.


reply posted on 11-2-2011 @ 06:11 AM by Travlla
Originally posted by Seitler
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst


No free people EVER became free without killing the people in power, or at least their soldiers. This has been the way of the world since the earliest civilized persons were around. .


Sorry mate but Australia became a nation without a war or revolution,



reply posted on 11-2-2011 @ 06:19 AM by Seitler
reply to post by Travlla


Did you forget the killing and separating of the aborigines from their original homes? (I know... its not the same)

Actually... I need to read up, because i just realized I have no idea how Australia became a sovereign nation.

Off to read a bit....


reply posted on 11-2-2011 @ 06:27 AM by Travlla
Originally posted by Seitler
reply to post by Travlla


Did you forget the killing and separating of the aborigines from their original homes? (I know... its not the same)

Actually... I need to read up, because i just realized I have no idea how Australia became a sovereign nation.

Off to read a bit....

I assumed (silly me) you were talking about gaining independence from England,No i won't forget the Aborigines,especially the one's who beat me up and stole my wallet ,


reply posted on 11-2-2011 @ 06:29 AM by Seitler
reply to post by Travlla


I am not sure if I understand entirely... but it seems as if Australia, while recognized as a sovereign entity, is not a nation in itself. It is rather part of the British Commonwealth. Aus has its own prime minister, but the Queen (if I am understanding correctly) still has the final say in all matters. If this is the case, then technically Australia doesn't count in this zone, as it is still directly tied to Britain for some of its lawmaking abilities and such. (Granted, this is only if I correctly understand what I am reading)

Still... good work on making me search for that. I will agree with you as far as gain a HUGE amount of independence from Britain peacefully. But even so, that makes one semi-free nation out of how many?


reply posted on 11-2-2011 @ 07:22 AM by gncnew
reply to post by TechUnique


LOL, they used the voice from xtra normal. This is so stupid.

I could post this and call it from anon and suddenly I'm fighting the good fight.

If it's real (which I doubt) they are playing a dangerous game. People with limitless supplies, contacts, resources, and bullets are who they are targeting.

They want to play on that stage? Really? They'll find themselves quickly having to look over their shoulder for the rest of their life.

It's all fun and games until one of them "falls off a bridge".


reply posted on 11-2-2011 @ 07:54 AM by kcfusion
Originally posted by VI0811
Originally posted by eightonefive
Originally posted by space cadet
Threads like this one make me want to leave ATS for good. Threats are serious business, threatening a government is even more so. I don't go along with either. I don't think we (ATS members) should be supporting a person or organization that makes threats such as this.


wtf are you talking about? this threat didn't originate on ATS.


This whole thread reaks of stupidity.


I kind of agree with you both. I live in America, and I am getting pretty sick of all the people in other country's blaming us for everything. Something bad happens, were expected to bail people out. If a dictoator goes off the deep end, its our fault somehow. People keep saying we need to do something about Egypt. What ? What is it that you want us to do. Interfere with the good people over there trying to better things ? What ?
I'm getting fed up with how America is all these evil things, and everyone else is a bed of Roses, and if they are not, then its our fault or were expected to pick up their pieces.

You know what. Hate us, I don't care anymore. Come invade us. See what happens. Don't try and find a better way. Don't try and make change happen. Just sit around on your couch and blame other country's and do nothing.

Go home and cry to your mama's ....


Not Americans! The American Government and maybe if it was not involved in almost everything then people wouldn't blame America would they? Maybe you should actually research into what your Government is up to and as for doing nothing.... why do you keep letting your Government get involved in business that has nothing to do with Americans?? Also I dont think any Government smells of roses, but yours has one hell of a track record!!


reply posted on 11-2-2011 @ 07:56 AM by Travlla
Originally posted by Seitler
reply to post by Travlla


I am not sure if I understand entirely... but it seems as if Australia, while recognized as a sovereign entity, is not a nation in itself. It is rather part of the British Commonwealth. Aus has its own prime minister, but the Queen (if I am understanding correctly) still has the final say in all matters. If this is the case, then technically Australia doesn't count in this zone, as it is still directly tied to Britain for some of its lawmaking abilities and such. (Granted, this is only if I correctly understand what I am reading)

Still... good work on making me search for that. I will agree with you as far as gain a HUGE amount of independence from Britain peacefully. But even so, that makes one semi-free nation out of how many?


Australia is a sovereign nation,our whole relationship with the queen thing is very similar to Canada's,
here's some more reading for you but i do agree we are one of the few getting it without bloodshed
en.wikipedia.org...
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