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New drilling method opens vast oil fields in US

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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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1.5 trillion barrels of shale oil....

In other words, 1.5 trillion barrels of near worthless dirty oil to make roads and plastic bottles out of... Hooray for that.

Maybe you forgot to mention the sheer amount of water it takes to refine shale, and that shale oil itself isn't actually oil. It's a toxic muck that can't even be refined into petroleum or anything of actual use to this failing paradigm
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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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The U.S. should have had an energy policy in place a long time ago during the start of the oil shortages in the '70's. Using oil as the main source to run our engines is old technology that should have been replaced long ago. Serious research into new sources of energy didn't really start until 15 years ago. If we're serious about cleaning up our environment and reducing the cost of energy, the U.S. should start cutting back on our military budget and start funneling money into a clean and unlimited source of energy. It would really give the needed big kick to our economy and get this country back on track.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Nomad451
reply to post by SirMike
 


1.5 trillion barrels of shale oil....

In other words, 1.5 trillion barrels of near worthless dirty oil to make roads and plastic bottles out of... Hooray for that.

Maybe you forgot to mention the sheer amount of water it takes to refine shale, and that shale oil itself isn't actually oil. It's a toxic muck that can't even be refined into petroleum or anything of actual use to this failing paradigm
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Shale oil can most certainly be refined into any hydrocarbon that crude can. Dont know where you heard that from. As far as water consumption isuues, there are ways around that.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by SirMike
First off, this aint hydraulic fracturing dingletard. Secondly, hydraulic fracturing isnt the boogeyman its been made out to be, despite what youtube says.


Hydraulic facturing is exactly what this is.

RTFA

Environmentalists fear that fluids or wastewater from the process, called hydraulic fracturing, could pollute drinking water supplies. The Environmental Protection Agency is now studying its safety in shale drilling. The agency studied use of the process in shallower drilling operations in 2004 and found that it was safe.


According to the EPA, flammable tap water is safe.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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We are not cutting back on our military, but we will be converting most of it to bio fuels. We started using a bio diesel version of JP8 years ago.

The US military really is at the forefront of alternative energy research. The next big projects involve micro turbine fuel cells that run off of methanol, which is made from wood. All of our near future military robotics and exoskeletons will use these alternative fueled microturbines.

From this, like always, civilian applications will follow.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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Opening vast oil fields by using a method known to ruin entirely the environnement (and I do not mean that apples growing in this area won't be as good, I mean there won't be any trees around anymore and I won't even talk about water) is certainly a good idea.

But eh, great news, you'll get all the oil you need to run your car and get your 15$ bottles of water.
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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyTHSeed

According to the EPA, flammable tap water is safe.


"After intense study we have found that the minor contaminants in the water are within tolerance for safe human consumption. Warning: In the process of using Tap Water for the metropolitan area please extinguish all cigarettes, turn off your cell phone, and keep away from all sparks or other sources of ignition."



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by Stopterrystops
Nice. Now how soon before the government puts a moratorium on this type of drilling?


Well,
If you read the article, they are letting the Chinese get in on the action.
I think the long term plan may be to trade oil to the Chinese and in return we will get back our worthless dollars which will help to reduce the value of the dollar even more here in the US as no one will be holding any but the US and the fed will still be printing by the trillion to cover the next generation of failed banks and car companies.
Since the oil will all be shipped to China to fuel their ever growing industrial revolution we will still pay top dollar for oil here which should make the "anti-affordable oil" members here happy. And since China will be pumping out more pollution in the next twenty years than the US and Europe have pumped out in the last 200 years we will responsibly spend hundreds of trillions of useless dollars out of guilt to offset their pollution by at least 1.5%. This should make the green lobby happy, the middle class disappear and guarantee a totally useless dollar that will be changed to the Amero and put on the international market at a rate of 1000 to one versus the yuan.

When Americans can't afford to buy a sandwich or toilet paper they will finally turn to socialism and the citizens of the US can look forward to tearing down a wall and finding glastnos somewhere around 2085.

Thank you very much. I also prognosticate for weddings and Bar Mitzvah's.
Don't forget to tip your waitress.
Good night.
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Yay. Good times ahead then.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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Hydraulic facturing is exactly what this is.

RTFA


Shale oil is not the same thing as shale gas, I could care less what the article says. Try thinking for yourself instead of letting someone spoonfeed you everything you know ... or is that too difficult for such a free thinker?


According to the EPA, flammable tap water is safe.


Incidents of "flammable tap" are as old as water wells and many of the cases of drilling related "flaming faucets" have turned out to be naturally occurring and not related to gas drilling. Once again, take you blinders off and get educated, otherwise you will sound like a puppet with Josh Fox's arm up you arse making your mouth move.

In short, get a clue.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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Meanwhile innocent people in the mid-east will continue to be slaughtered to satisfy the greed of american oil companies.. Nothing will change till new , cleaner, more efficient forms of energy are developed.. Which will never happen thanks to u.s oil companies and u.s politicians ... Who maintain the status quo to earn their bloodmoney. How many more must die before they learn better..



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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They started this method in one area of Tx a few years ago (Cleburne) and not long after
they experienced a few minor earthquakes, which has never happened before.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by TheOneElectric
Question is: Should we still be using oil as a main source of energy?

No matter your political ideology, faith, or general mindset, every indication from mother nature and the general usefulness of the product should indicate no. Drilling more is not the answer. It never was...


You are exactly right, drilling more is not now, nor was it ever, the ultimate answer. Anyone who thinks this is good news needs to make a serious effort to watch the documentary entitled; "Gasland." I wanted to provide a link here but I was unable to find anything other than trailers.

First of all, Fracking is not a new procedure and secondly it destroys the water table in the process of extracting oil & natural gas. So we end up with plenty of oil & gas but no water to drink, I think not.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Well excuse me for not being an oil expert as yourself. According to the article, this technique is known as hydraulic fracturing. According to you, this technique is known as... what?

I don't know who Josh Fox is, but I appreciate your colorful description of how he sodomizes me. Thank you.

Correct me again because I am wrong, but your reasoning for water tables being safe from pollution by oil & gas drilling is that some water tables are naturally polluted? Good grief sir.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by SirMike
Incidents of "flammable tap" are as old as water wells and many of the cases of drilling related "flaming faucets" have turned out to be naturally occurring and not related to gas drilling. Once again, take you blinders off and get educated, otherwise you will sound like a puppet with Josh Fox's arm up you arse making your mouth move.

In short, get a clue.


Wow someone had some bad cheese for breakfast!

I think there are probably more productive ways of getting your point across without being insulting. Besides do you honestly believe the incidents of flammable tap are naturally occurring? What oil exploration company hired you?


Really though I think it is obvious the EPA does succumb to larger companies and monetary interests. I honestly don't know about this particular but I do know I wouldn't trust anyone saying the tap water suddenly becoming flammable when it just so happens there is a new drilling operation nearby is a bit of a stretch...



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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with the chaging technolgy i dont think we will be so reliant on oil in a few decades, things are changing fast now. for example in oxford (uk) they have just created a fuel that will work in petrol engines for about 90 pence a gallon and its cleaner.

kx



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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Don't forget the Wikileaks report that the size of Saudi Arabia's oilfield was overstated by as much as 40% or 300 billion barrels.

Canada has billons and billions of tons of oil soaked sands and and now the U.S. is "stumbling" onto new methods for tapping our hidden reserves. You got to love the way our PTB sucked the world dry of oil while saving ours, at least they had some sort of plan for our future.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by MMPI2
B..but...but...If we drill for and acquire our own substantial oil supply, we won't be a weaker nation!! The capitalists will win AGAIN!!


Ummm haven't we been just capping our oil supply and keeping production to a minimum while we use up theirs? You can drive all over the west and see capped wells.

Hmmmm

And I have heard that some wells refill mysteriously... so either Abiotic oil is TRUE... or we are pumping it INTO the ground to stockpile

Abiotic Oil
www.viewzone.com...

Geochemist Says Oil FieldsMay Be Refilled Naturally - New York Times
www.nytimes.com...

Oil Fields Are Refilling... Naturally - Greensboro Gas Prices
www.greensborogasprices.com...



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 08:05 PM
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Not to mention the real possibility of giant sinkholes opening up after the ground eventually collapses into the pumped-dry voids. This extraction method is nowhere near as benign as the industry would have the public believe.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 08:29 PM
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It was SUPPOSED to be a secret plan, but oh well, now that the cat is out
of the bag, so to speak.....


S & F to the OP
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