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Originally posted by purplemer
i dont know how america tollerates having the cia. it looks from the outside world as a terrorist orginasation.
kx
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
Do you people even understand who you are believing?... You all are so blind in your hatred against the U.S., and the CIA, that you all are willing to believe the claims made by castro's regime... The same regime that has had an entire nation under a communist dictatorship for over 52 years, and this same communist regime exported terrorism to every country it could...
Did not one of you stop to think that the whole Posada affair is nothing more than a disinformation campaign from a communist dictatorship?.... Naaa....edit on 10-2-2011 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)
Iran – CIA overthrows the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh in a military coup, after he threatened to nationalize British oil. The CIA replaces him with a dictator, the Shah of Iran, whose secret police, SAVAK, is as brutal as the Gestapo.
Originally posted by harrytuttle
They only gave him $2000 to commit a terrorist attack?!? LOL
The CIA is obviously hiring total idiots - who in their right (and greedy and murderous) mind would agree to such a dangerous mission for a measly $2000?
Something doesn't add up here. Either that guy is a complete moron, and the CIA is getting people to commit false flag terror for bargain basement prices, or ....something else entirely.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Yeah, you just lost a lot of credibility there, imo
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Cuba is a corrupt commie dictatorship? Actually, they happen to be a nationalist Cuban government based on Marxist ideology, and they've managed to survive through extreme economic hardships, terrorism and outright invasion attempts, all directed by the West.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Oh, and they do have regular elections to. You either vote for the system, or you don't.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
So far, it's maintained at least a 90% support rate. So dock it all you want, but I'm sure that American school textbooks declare Cuba to be some evil commie dictatorship that suppresses its people.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
The reality is that the US has been trying to crush them for 52 years ever since they revolted against exploitation of their entire population from both American government and mafia interests.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
The very fact that Cuba's intervention that fended off the South African apartheid invasion of Angola scared the Americans (who support apartheid dictatorships like South Africa and Israel), and thus the US promised to never cut off the trade emargo with Cuba until there is anti-Cuban reform there.
Fidel Castro says his economic system is failingFormer Cuban president says state-run model 'doesn't even work for us' in offhand remark to US journalist Jeffrey Goldberg
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
How bloody convenient that after a major earthquake in Haiti, the US promises to send millions in aid, but instead sends thousands of soldiers "for security and humanitarian efforts". Let's look at a map:
Janet Napolitano is lying to the American people when she says the Report is not based on ideology or political beliefs. In fact, her report would have the admiration of the Gestapo and any current or past dictator in the way it targets political opponents. This incompetently written intelligence assessment, which directs law enforcement officials across the country to target and report on American citizens who have the political beliefs mentioned in the report, will be used as a tool to stifle political opposition and opinions. It will give a pretext for opponents of those Americans to report them to police as rightwing extremists and terrorists. You can imagine what happens then.
The Report specifically mentions the following political beliefs that law enforcement should use to determine whether someone is a “rightwing extremist”:
•Opposes restrictions on firearms
•Opposes lax immigration
•Opposes the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship, and the expansion of social programs
•Opposes continuation of free trade agreements
•Opposes same-sex marriage
•Has paranoia of foreign regimes
•Fear of Communist regimes
•Opposes one world government
•Bemoans the decline of U.S. stature in the world.
•Upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India
. . . and the list goes on.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
You accuse Cuba of being a dictatorship for 52 years? They've done nothing but survive for 52 years from brutal American "diplomacy"! Under crushing economic conditions following the collapse of the Soviet bloc, they turned cities into gardens, they changed harmful chemical into effective and natural pesticides for farming, they re-learned how to use animals for agriculture instead of thousands of tractors and machinery supplied from the Soviets.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
They've achieved so many necessary things that we need to understand in order to treat our freaking planet with the respect it deserves, instead of raping and engineering it like in the US, AND YOU SAY CUBA IS WRONG?!
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
That's 638 CIA assassination attempts on Castro's life. All have failed.
JFK Assassination
Did Castro Kill Kennedy?
By Michael Scott Moore in Berlin
A new documentary slated to run on German TV this Friday uncovers new evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered President Kennedy on behalf of the regime of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. The film also claims that the KGB recommended Oswald to Havana as the man for the job.
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PART I:
CASTRO AND TERRORISM 1959-2001, A CHRONOLOGY
A CHRONOLOGY by Eugene Pons,
with a foreword by Jaime Suchlicki,
Institute for Cuban & Cuban-American Studies Occasional Paper Series September 2001
FOREWORD
Since 1948 when, as a young student, Fidel Castro participated in the violence that rocked Colombian
society and distributed anti-U.S. propaganda, he has been guided by two objectives: a commitment to violence and
a virulent anti-Americanism. His struggle since and his
forty-two years rule in Cuba have been characterized primarily by these goals.
In the 1960's Castro and his brother, Raul, believed that the political and economic conditions that produced their revolution existed in Latin America and that anti-American revolutions would occur throughout the continent. Cuban agents and diplomats established contact with revolutionary, terrorist and guerrilla groups in the area and began distributing propaganda, weapons and aid. Many Latin Americans were brought to Cuba for training and then returned to their countries.
At the Tricontinental Conference held in Havana in 1966 and attended by revolutionary leaders from throughout the world, Castro insisted that bullets not ballots was the way to achieve power and provided the institutional means to promote his anti-American, violent line. He insisted that "conditions exist for an armed revolutionary struggle" and criticized those who opposed armed struggle, including some Communist leaders in Latin America, as "traitorous, rightists, and deviationists."
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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
And what of the Cuban Six? These were six Cuban intel agents sent to Florida, ONLY to observe American terrorist elements planning to attack Cuba. They are still in American maximum security for terrorism charges. All the while, the CIA attempts to conduct terrorism against Cuba to topple the will of its people and to kill of their leadership.
Accessory to murder?
The killing of four Cuban-American private rescue pilots by Fidel Castro's air force has provoked official, after-the-fact outrage from the U.S. government. But under-oath testimony shows that government officials knew Cuban MiGs were bearing down on the Cessna pilots; they did nothing. American interceptors were ready for takeoff; they were left on the runway. The pilots could have been warned; they weren't. The government's response: "A poor assumption." What happened in the crucial moments before the fatal shootdown? The details are "classified." But there's enough information available to suggest, at best, a government conspiracy of silence. | Mindy Belz
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The Castro Mafia’s ties to Medicare Fraud in Florida
By Alberto de la Cruz, on January 20, 2011, at 1:59 pm
Vanessa Lopez from UM's Institute for Cuban and Cuban American Studies (ICCAS) has an excellent exposé on the possible ties the criminal Castro mafia may have with the disproportionately high incidence of Medicare fraud cases in Florida.
The Cuban Government and Multi-Million Dollar Medicare Fraud in South Florida
The dilapidated state of the Cuban economy has left the Cuban government scrambling for ways to obtain hard currency. Cuba has contrived ways to benefit from leasing doctors, nurses, teachers, and security agents abroad; more recently, Cuba has also found ways to capitalize on large-scale Medicare fraud, possibly committing economic warfare on the United States.
Medicare fraud is one of the highest dollar volume crimes in the United States. In October of 2009, it was estimated that such fraud has reached $60 billion a year. (1) And South Florida has become the epicenter of this federal crime.
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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
The only dictatorship here is the USA.
Oh yeah, the U.S. is being turned into ANOTHER LEFTIST dictatorship....
What the hell do you know about the "regular elections in Cuba"?....
My family and I LIVED and EXPERIENCED the Marxist ideology you seem to love so much and which is fact does nothing but bring suffering, and death to people and entire nations...
For crying out loud, the communist regime sent Cuban soldiers to Angola, and other countries to SPREAD TERRORISM...
Heck even castro told EVERYONE that the communist system is not working...
And castro sucessfully assesinated JFK...
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
For your information, I have never personally been to Cuba yet.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
However, I am in league with a few people who have been there many times to study the reality of the situation down there.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
This leads me to believe that you're assessment is BS in its entirety.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
So uneducated... The US has already been couped in 2001, and is now fascist. That's as far right as you can get, but I'm sure you can't see that in your own country where you media attacks itself for being too "left" or too "right" when it is really just one big puppet show designed to mislead the masses.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
People who believe the US is turning "left" or socialist are laughable. They know nothing about political science and watch too much American media, which is pure garbage.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
So please, continue with your assessment on how Cuba is so wrong, based on the view that the US is "turning into a leftist dictatorship"
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Well first off, I've studied it in university. Here, we study it from a neutral view that involves studying both Cuba's assessment of itself and foreign assessments of it, including those from the far right in the US.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Oh, and on top of that we've also had plenty of guest lecturers that have done lots of humanitarian work there, and their assessment is far greater than yours.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Marxism brings suffering?
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Are you so blind?
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Marxism is mindset to understand society as being controlled by the means of production.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
The only suffering is caused by capitalist forces, led by the rich, who fear the impoverished of the world gaining any power or credibility. Maybe you should study south American history, and see how many millions have died from CIA operations there (hint: it's over 5 million).
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Spoken like a true brainwashed, right-wing American wannabe. If you were really born Cuban like you claim, then I grieve for your treason against your own people.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
And so this must mean that communism doesn't work, right? Just like how communism "failed" after 72 years in Russia, right?
With this understood, the Soviet Union appears the greatest megamurderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the cultural revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst megamurderer. Then there are the lesser megamurderers, such as North Korea and Tito's Yugoslavia.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
The Cuban situation isn't working because of all of the foreign suppression against them.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
It must be nice to sit on the ever-powerful side of the empire and make such pathetic claims like you do about small nations, proven successful but must be wrong because they don't follow the supreme ways of the American culture
Supermodel with a cause falls foul of policeEmailPrintNormal fontLarge fontJanuary 27, 2006
Czech supermodel Helena Houdova took a break from the catwalk to visit communist Cuba and was arrested for taking photo graphs in a slum.
The former Miss Czech Republic 1999 runs a foun dation in New York that supports dis advantaged children and wanted to see what she could do to help in Cuba.
But on Monday, Cuban security police detained Houdova and her companion, Czech psychologist Mariana Kroftova, while they were taking photographs in the poor Havana area of Arroyo Naranjo.
They were released 11 hours later after signing a let ter saying they would not engage in "counter-revolutionary" activities.
"We were afraid," Houdova said. "We grew up under communism and know what it is like."
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Again, you're losing credibility. What delusion is this, accusing someone you disagree with with something like the JFK assasination.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Man, you have some serious hate issues against Cuba. But I guess that's just your situation. Where I am from, we do not have such negative views on a nation that has proven to have the will to survive under dire circumstance WHILE obeying its obligations to nature itself.edit on 10-2-2011 by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi because: (no reason given)
The exile, Luis Posada Carriles, said he organized a wave of bombings in Cuba last year at hotels, restaurants and discotheques, killing an Italian tourist and alarming the Cuban Government. Mr. Posada was schooled in demolition and guerrilla warfare by the Central Intelligence Agency in the 1960's.
The Call of the International Committee to Demand Justice for the Victims of the "13 de Marzo" Massacre
This is the initiating statement of the international campaign to bring justice to the victims of the "13 de Marzo" massacre. Our challenge is to go out to the international community and reach people so that many more people can speak out on this outrage, and also to deepen our campaign so that our goal can be accomplished. Justice for Caridad Tacoronte age 4, Marjolis Méndez age 17 who had their young lives violently taken away from them, and the other thirty nine who were brutally murdered on July 13, 1994.
In the early morning hours of July 13, 1994 the tugboat[/size "13 de Marzo" was attacked by agents of the Cuban government. They repeatedly rammed the tug, used high pressure water hoses on the victims, and sank the ship killing at least 41 men, women, and children seven miles off the coast of Havana, Cuba.
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In response, defense attorney Hernandez filed his motions, which refer to previous testimony Hernandez Caballero gave during a separate hijacking case in Florida in 1997. While testifying in that case, Hernandez Caballero admitted to being a major in the Direccion General de Contra Intelegencia, Cubas counter-intelligence agency.
Hernandez said the defense only discovered the information this week because prosecutors were late in turning over a transcript of Hernandez Caballero's previous testimony. He alleged they were deliberately slow because they didn't want him to be able to impeach the witness.
Hernandez also said that, instead of the real investigators who handled the bombing cases, the Cuban government sent Hernandez Caballero to provide the jury misinformation that could hurt his client.
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
Posada has admitted to terrorist attacks. Unless of course the communist dictatorship tricked him into confessing.
Human Rights Watch Reports:
The conditions in Cubas prisons are inhuman, and political prisoners suffer additional degrading treatment and torture.
The punitive and intimidatory measures against political prisoners that caused severe pain and suffering violated Cubas obligations under the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, which it ratified in 1995. Once again, in the past year the
government forbade access to its prisons by international human rights monitors and humanitarian groups, including the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
I am aware of that.
Who are "you people"? Who is talking about Gitmo? We are talking about Luis Posada, an admitted terrorist.
In response, defense attorney Hernandez filed his motions, which refer to previous testimony Hernandez Caballero gave during a separate hijacking case in Florida in 1997. While testifying in that case, Hernandez Caballero admitted to being a major in the Direccion General de Contra Intelegencia, Cubas counter-intelligence agency.
Hernandez said the defense only discovered the information this week because prosecutors were late in turning over a transcript of Hernandez Caballero's previous testimony. He alleged they were deliberately slow because they didn't want him to be able to impeach the witness.
Hernandez also said that, instead of the real investigators who handled the bombing cases, the Cuban government sent Hernandez Caballero to provide the jury misinformation that could hurt his client.
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
Posada has admitted to terrorist attacks. Unless of course the communist dictatorship tricked him into confessing.
“The exile, Luis Posada Carriles, said he organized a wave of bombings in Cuba at hotels, restaurants and dance clubs, killing an Italian tourist and alarming the Cuban Government. Posada Carriles was trained in guerrilla warfare by the Central Intelligence Agency in the 1960’s.
“In a series of taped interviews at a walled Caribbean compound, Posada Carriles said the hotel bombings (in Havana) and other operations had been approved by leaders of the Cuban-American National Foundation. Its founder and leader, Jorge Mas Canosa, who recently died, was embraced at the White House by Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton.”
ElectricUniverse-
The only people you are in league with are tourists, because you haven't said ANYTHING that resembles reality in Cuba...
Uneducated really?... The U.S. government under Obama took over a PRIVATE COMPANY, giving a percentage of it to Canada, and keeping the other percentage for the Feds, that is a socialist move...
Not to mention that the PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS, under Obama implemented a bill to FORCE Americans, including children to work for free for the government.
The laughable people are those who believe the lies from filthy RICH self-professed socialists/communists who write books for the ignorant masses to engorge in lies, whether willingly or unwillingly...
You sir don't know what the hell you are talking about, and you should be man, or woman enough to come out and say the truth instead of trying to pass lies as the truth...
You should stop talking about something you don't know anything about, more so when my family, and most other Cubans are still suffering under the communist dictatorship you claim is so great...
OMG... GUEST LECTURERS?..... Care to name names of these so called guest lecturers?...
Marxism, and all forms of socialism do nothing but consolidate all government power to a few people who claim "they represent the people", when in fact they oppress the people...
I am sure ignorant people like yourself still claim that Nazi Germany was a fascist regime even though Hitler himself proclaimed many times that they were socialists, and they implemented socialist programs...
Care to present RELIABLE links?... and please no BS leftist link...
Are you telling us that communism was great for Russia and the former U.S.S.R. nations?...
I am losing credibility?....
These are the facts that ignorant left-wingers love to ignore about Cuba...
You people love to talk about the tortures of gitmo, yet you fail to know, or understand the extend of the real torture in Cuban prisons...
And yes, we have had many of you try to raise hell for Gitmo, yet you, those like the Canadian i was responding to, love to ignore the torture, suffering and death caused by leftist regimes...
Do you have ANY idea of where the witnesses against Posada gave their supposed admission?... FROM CUBAN PRISONS...
But you go ahead and talk to tourists and read your text books...You know better than natives after all.
And to that point, any nation you have to escape is not doing anything right. Next we'll hear about how great North Korea is.
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
His confession was printed in the New York Times. Did the writer make it all up? Hell even the CIA (who hired him) admits he carried out these attacks. This is not a case of a poor freedom fighter being set up; this is a case of an admitted terrorist choosing to kill innocent people, in a vain attempt to take down a dictator.