Thus if there is a Christian who is a "loving" person, it is in spite of the example of Jesus, and not because of him, since if a person were to follow the teachings and religion of Jesus they would have to transform themselves into a genocidal religious fanatic and a bigot, cursing those who did not believe in him to eternal hell.
Personally I consider myself a loving person and I like to be surrounded by other loving persons, and since every song on the radio is a love song, it is "love" which seems to be a major focus of the human mind; however this has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity; Christians do not have a monopoly on love; in fact from a study of the centuries' long history of the Jesus business it would seem to me that there has been a distinct shortage of love in that religion and that they have rather attempted to monopolise hatred and bigotry "in the name of love."
Love is probably the central hypnotic keyword in religious hypnosis; however no matter how many times you use that word, it will never transform that 2000 year old fake healer into a model of love, nor will it transform his followers if they are using Jesus as their model of an almost perfectly intolerant bigot and religious fanatic.
Originally posted by inforeal
reply to post by Lucifer777
Your analyses again I repeat is based on you own pre-conceived notions
You avoided completely the links I gave you and quote links by Islamic haters who are liars and slanderers.
You went to the first evangelical Islamic hater with your answer to my post and all you do is repeat the lies they write.
You lack any real genuine scholarship or information other than superficial analyses from Islamic hating sites who distort information to suit there own biases.
Compare my links with truth to yours
I have given you well known scholars and wiki links and you give me sites from bigots.
That proves the extent of your knowledge is wanting and based on ignorance.
My links prove that MUHAMMAD FREED SLAVES.
He never claimed to abolish it because slavery is was ingrained in pre-modern times that it would have been impossible to do it.
Also Lucifer, what proves your information is filled with misinformation is the fact that you go to an anti-Muslim CHRISTIAN site to get slander on Islam and at the same time you also condemn Christianity!
Imagine what that site would say about your religion!
In 628 C.E. Prophet Muhammad (s) granted a Charter of Privileges to the monks of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt. Sinai. It consisted of several clauses covering all aspects of human rights including such topics as the protection of Christians, freedom of worship and movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain their property, exemption from military service, and the right to protection in war.
This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them.
Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses.
Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.
The Muslims are to fight for them.
If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).
Originally posted by Lucifer777
His religion was not Christianity, but fundamentalist Judaism; he promoted strict adherence to the primitive and savage Judaic Law (the 613 Laws of Moses) and the "Prophets (thought to be the oral Judaic tradition which was later written down as the Talmud);" a form of theocratic legalism which would probably result in the genocide of practically the entire human race for numerous executionable offences, inlcuding failing to worship only the primitive tribal deity of a bunch of genocidal Bronze Age savages and religious fanatics.
Originally posted by superluminal11
reply to post by Lucifer777
You forgot Judaism.
The bible..or "GOD" equate women to that of domesticated animal
without loosing their souls like in the west, with the crime, immorality and hedonism.
You guys neglect that in your arguments and also forget about all the great people inside of religion, particularly the esoteric aspect of it where you have great people like Rumi, Ibn Arabi, and many other Sufis and the many Christian and Jewish mystics who were known people of wisdom.
There are millions of good people in religion, particularly of an esoteric kind who don’t do the things you mention.
So when you say all Islam sucks you forget Rumi was a Muslim cleric.
Originally posted by awake_and_aware
And i'm sorry if you feel offended, that's my opinion on religion; and it's NOT free from criticism, despite some people actually thinking it demands respect.
Why should irrational belief systems be respected? Especially when relayed to suggestible minds such as children?
Can any person of belief name a moral act that an Atheist can't do, that a religious person can?
I would consider myself to be European cultrual supremacist since I have travelled the world and I find Europe to be very much a social paradise in comparison to most parts of the world.
Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest
Genital mutilation is wicked, we can't highlight this for fear of disrespect of "Holy orders". Well it's about time that zeitgeist changed. It's long overdue. Hitchens on genital mutilation
1. Experience the Absolute and abide by that selflessly
2. Transcendentally Love everyone equally regardless of creed, culture, gender, etc.
3. The act of completely surrendering the ego in the void of the Absolute into a permanent basis and living selflessly
4. I can keep going for pages at a time ......but I think the point is made.