Originally posted by sherlock2k2
reply to post by Dalbeck
Hi Dal, really good post mate its probably the only way i would get to see it and appreciate the effort.
Dal i dont want to hijack your post but i cant write a thread yet but thought this is to good a story to PM you about. I have a few questions for you
that you may be able to help me out with as they are really bugging me but ive drawn up blanks in my search on the internet.
A few years ago now i was stationed with the British army in Minden. The barracks we stayed in was called Elizabeth barracks to us but was
obviously an older German barracks as it still had all the eagles and markings etc along with ammunition cellars and armoury's etc. Well my first
question is could you help me find out a little more about the place as it must have some good history.
Secondly and more importantly up on the Weser ridge which slops down at Port west falica for the river, road and rail crossings there is some
massive iron doors sealed in the cliff face on the opposite cliff side to the side with the Kaiser statue. Well me being me im so curious that i had
to take a look. So after some major manipulation of my body i managed to get inside. I only had a very small light and it was total darkness but there
was tunnels going off into the darkness and another with a large cavern space for like rockets or something and various equipment laying everywhere.
I cannot find any real information about this place and i said one day i would return but i never did. Im really sure that it was a weapons factory
underground but to be honest on my own in the dark with only a weak light it was very hard to tell and the place felt extremely uncomfortable and im
not frightened very easy but it seriously un nerved me..
Any help or thoughts would be good and once again great post.
here are some pieces of information (there are barely reliable sources and it was really hard to gather at least some information):
As far as I’m concerned the “Elisabeth Kasernen” (Elizabeth barracks) were simply barracks used by the Nazi “Wehrmacht” (/army) and were
home to the 16th Battalion of sappers (don’t know if it’s the right translation though
). The barracks were part of a big military complex
(training and exercising fields).
You may also want to check out for some recent pictures (just click on “Minden”): chris-blevins1.magix.net...
As for your second question I found something interesting, I will try to write it down for you as understandable as possible:
During the Second World War underground factories, called “U-built relocations”, were built in(to) the Weser and Wiehengebirge (=mountains of
Weser and Wiehen) near Minden. In these factories forced laborers from the concentration camp (KZ) Neuengamme had to produce weapons and other
war-related goods. After the war the machines in these factories were dismantled by the Americans and they also sealed the entrances.
“U-shift relocations” (“underground shiftings”) denotes a German armament production plant shifted under the earth's surface during the
Second World War.
After the weapon(s) factories in Peenemünde were damaged a lot during the British operation “Hydra” the national socialists’ government decided
to transfer/ shift any war important factory to an underground location.
Especially in old mines or in newly created tunnels the companies found the space they needed for their operations. The great demand for laborer in
the underground relocation was met by the use of forced laborers and concentration camp inmates of newly constructed concentration camps.
In particular, the production of synthetic gasoline in the so-called Geilenberg program was moved underground. The program was named after Edmund
Geilenberg, the Commissioner General for immediate action at the Reich Ministry for Armaments and War Production (Reichsministerium für Rüstung- und
Under the direction of the so called “Jägerstab” the German fighter aircraft industry was decentralized and moved to underground development and
The underground facility you discovered was mainly used by the Nazis to ensure the production of fighter planes. Originally used as mines the
underground facilities near Porta Westfalica were enlarged to transfer production factories to underground locations.