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Newborn Baby Found Abandoned in Toilet

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posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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A South Carolina woman has been arrested after giving birth and leaving the baby to die in a toilet at a circus . Family members accompanied the woman to the local police station , where she was arrested .

The woman is married , and the mother of a four-year-old .

The baby boy is now listed in stable condition after being found by a clean-up crew and taken to a local hospital .

This is just trajic , I don't know what else to say about it .

www.msnbc.msn.com...




posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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Now we have a possible 'Christ'

And a possible 'Anti-christ' !



Ladies and Gentlemen, place your bets!
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posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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Sorry, but how is this "above top secret"? Just been wondering that about a bunch of the stuff I've seen here.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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I was wondering how long it would take for someone to make that 'observation' .

Seriously though , I sincerely hope this kid makes it and I hope he never has to know how he came into this wretched world .



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 10:12 PM
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If you will notice , I placed it in Other Current Events , not a conspiracy forum .



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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some people here have nothing better to do the find a way to flame a post just igge them.
this is very sad and im glade the kid lived .
pss i personily know a person very very close to me who killed there own 8 week old girl and nearly killed the other two kids as well back in 1966 .
ps I am 45 can you gess who it was that lived through it.
and also it shows this is no new thing
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posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 10:40 PM
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That's terrible , I can't begin to imagine what you have been through . Glad to see you pulled through all of it , stay strong .



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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10 monopoly dollars on the devil kid being a devil or satan or some *%^&... the jesus kid... not jesus, actully i have a whole set of monopoly make it 20



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Please stop with these self-righteous judgements of the mother's character. It's only true that none of us at this point know what the circumstances for this tragic situation were. That the child was saved is the most important information. Everything else will soon enough be apparent. This kid didn't ask to be born, and he will live the consequences of his survival for the rest of his life. Our sympathies should focus upon him.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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As a conspiracy realist, I can certainly see several angles of conspiracy in this thread.

What a heinous act, will the whole story come out? I hope so, and that the babies future has been changed in positive ways which he never stood a chance to live with his birth mother.

There are wonderful people out there, conscious, loving and ready to raise a child like this little boy.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 11:15 PM
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Please stop with these self-righteous judgements of the mother's character.


I'm sorry , could you please show where anyone has attacked the womans character ? I think the woman's character speaks for itself .

But since you brought it up , I am of the opinion that any mother who leaves their newborn to die in a toilet in a stadium , has no character to start with . Her actions alone , prove what a selfish person she is . She was only thinking about how this child would impact her life in a negative manner , most likely . She certainly didn't give a damn about how her actions were affecting the life of a child that couldn't fend for himself .

I personally don't give a damn what her situation was , there are alternatives to what she did .

I absolutely can't stand people like you , who are quick to jump on the wagon to defend the criminal instead of the real victim .
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posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by okbmd
reply to post by QueSeraSera
 



Please stop with these self-righteous judgements of the mother's character.


I'm sorry , could you please show where anyone has attacked the womans character ? I think the woman's character speaks for itself .

But since you brought it up , I am of the opinion that any mother who leaves their newborn to die in a toilet in a stadium , has no character to start with .

I personally don't give a damn what her situation was , there are alternatives to what she did .

I absolutely can't stand people like you , who are quick to jump on the wagon to defend the criminal instead of the real victim .


Excuse me...but who's being the judgemental one here? I already said that the child's situation is the first and foremost one to be considered. I hope he pulls through and is healthy.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 01:29 AM
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If there's ever a case where it wouldn't be unreasonable to question someone's character, this is probably it.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 07:35 AM
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You just never know when Child forces come into play. They could send the child home with the birth mom once she has had her wrists slapped for whatever her lying excuse of abuse is going to be, and her family!!! they knew she was pregnant when she arrived at the circus and then was not when she left, they are all responsible if you ask me.

What did they think that the baby could be raised by the circus if they just stowed him away in the toilets? What if they were serious sicko's? Pedophiles or something? What if they turned the baby into some form of freak show headliner?

No this was not thought through, and if the woman popped him out, she had been in labor before going to the circus.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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Beat me to it. With all this baby found at dome of rock after UFO overtop stuff going on, I was excited to post on this baby found in circus toilet being the second coming. But i agree, enter circus jesus otherwise known as circ de hezues.
Jokes aside, leaving babies to die is disgusting, forgive the joke, just making light in the dark.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by MavRck
Now we have a possible 'Christ'

And a possible 'Anti-christ' !



Ladies and Gentlemen, place your bets!
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Are they going to accelerate their growth rate to accommodate the "times"? I would think that these children represent a fraction of the Christs and Anti-Christs being born. It all comes down to the embodiment of character.

I say rejoice there are still children as they will have to be lucky to survive what we set in motion.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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This stuff happens all the time, its just not reported all of the time. I wonder how many kids that died
of "crib death" back in the days, were actually mothers smothering the child?
Ive always wondered why its usually the mother that kills their kids?

Whats also funny is how society seems to treat the two differently. When the mother kills the kids,
Its because of post partum depression, or mental illness etc.. but when the father does it, hes painted as an evil
testosterone filled devil.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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grr, double post..

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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by ossminid
Sorry, but how is this "above top secret"? Just been wondering that about a bunch of the stuff I've seen here.


There are many different forums on ATS. You are currently in the Current events forum. This news story is a current event..... Hence the reason it was placed in the current events forum of ATS....

Understand now?

That said, this is a horrible thing. Poor baby is lucky to be alive.... New borns aren't able to take cold temperatures like that.... Just so sad.

I bet that she loses custody of her other child... Or rather that her husband divorces her and takes their older kid... If he doesn't do that.... well.... I don't know... It just sucks...



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by antar
reply to post by hayek11
 


You just never know when Child forces come into play. They could send the child home with the birth mom once she has had her wrists slapped for whatever her lying excuse of abuse is going to be, and her family!!! they knew she was pregnant when she arrived at the circus and then was not when she left, they are all responsible if you ask me.

What did they think that the baby could be raised by the circus if they just stowed him away in the toilets? What if they were serious sicko's? Pedophiles or something? What if they turned the baby into some form of freak show headliner?

No this was not thought through, and if the woman popped him out, she had been in labor before going to the circus.


First of all, I originally meant to reply to QueSeraSera who has suggesting we shouldn't judge this woman. I agree with your original post wholeheartedly.

It's entirely possible that the family knew or was involved, but we don't know much about her family or their knowledge/involvement. If they knew about it or helped her do it, they should be condemned and (if possible under state law) face charges of at least conspiracy.

Even if others are also culpable and responsible for the harm to this child, that does not somehow make the "mother" (using the term loosely) somehow less worthy of condemnation, judgement, or disdain. If a group of three people murder someone, are those three men less worthy of condemnation or judgement than if only one of them had done it on their own? They would all be just as evil and horrible regardless of whether they acted alone or with the help of 100 others.

Besides, ultimately the "mother" had to actually perform the act of giving birth in that bathroom. Even if there were some reason to think she was coerced, persuaded, or somehow induced to abandon the child, she is still responsible for not having the basic, fundamental, moral/ethical character not to do it. I believe that anyone, regardless of religion or lack thereof, ethical philosophy, or worldview, would consider this action (which had a high likelihood of killing the child) wrong, unethical/immoral, and worthy of contempt.



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