reply to post by Honor93
man i am tired of this thread, i am as upset or even more upset than you are for what they have done to the girl.
i've been following since the beginning and you foolishly assume that i can't read.
First, in several stories it has been reported the child was convicted of adultery ... regardless of your argument. And, even if what you say is true
... mother, father, rapist, wife = 4 witnesses ... what's the problem understanding that?
what i was saying is according to sharia, in order to convict a couple with adultery you need 4 witnesses, they (the four of them) MUST see the male
penis into the female's vagaina, i don't see how this is possible unless people are having sex in public, this is how strict and hard to proove
adultery in Islam.
you say it was really easy for the court to convict the girl with adultery because they had enough witnesses, mother, father, rapist, wife... how in
hell could the girl's cousin rape her if her father and mother were there?!
, they watched the whole thing up untill he put his penis in her
, maybe the parents caught them in action, even then they must see his penis in her vagaina, the rapist and the girl are not witnesses,
if they were accused they can't be witnesses, they can confess though, but this didn't happen, the girl accussed her cousin of raping her.
not sure what you mean by wife in your proposed witnesses list, do you mean the girl?
if that Islamic court was actually following Sharia they should have investegated the case according to sharia law and ended up punishing the rapist
not the girl, its very clear to me that the court didn't, it was enough for the court to hear from the girl's family and the rapist himself.
the girl was raped by her cousin, she told her family, her family blamed her in the first place (thats thier honor been taken - "Culture" not
religion), they brought her cousin to check, he might have said something like she seduced him, because women are treated like insects there they
beaten her untill she was unconscious (i feel sick), they wanted her dead beacuse she didn't maintain her virginity and brought shame to the
the Q doesn't address the Male as perpetrator ... and that is a problem.
read the following verse:
24:2] The adulteress and the adulterer you shall whip each of them a hundred lashes. Do not be swayed by pity from carrying out GOD's law, if you
truly believe in GOD and the Last Day. And let a group of believers witness their penalty
it says the adulteress and the ADULTERER
The verses also indicate 100 lashes due each party ... not just the girl --> yet, she's ordered 101 and he goes into hiding ???
yes, i am too asking why? i am asking if they follow Sharia why did they punish the girl and not her cousin (the rapist)?! he is an adulterer too, the
verse above says he must be punished, they didn't only add one extra lash, they didn't punish the guy at all, tell me now, do they follow
This child was not dead before the lashes began. Beaten yes but not dead, so don't assume that was the intent of the family -- this cannot be proven.
(however, one cannot deny honor killings are encouraged in Shari'a)
After she was raped, the rapist and his family then beat her until she was unconscious.
by his family, they mean, HER parents, brothers, and maybe HIS parents and brothers, or any other cousins.
she messed with the honor of the whole family, i know you will never know this as an American.
this is culture and not religion, Islam is against this, Islam says prove the adultery, bring the parties, stone or wipe. period
honor killings are totally rejected by Islam, don't aruge this, i know it more than you do, don't forget that i am an ex-muslim and Middle Eastern,
it is like me arguing you what you can buy with one dollar in your city while i never been to your city.
every law can be manipulated, islam is no exception, but the fact that it is not allowed to change a letter in Quran, and Quran being the source of
Islamic laws, truth wether Ugly or good stays there for anyone to see, this is a major challenge facing Islamic scholars, no matter how they try to
promote Islam as the religion of peace Quran itself punches them on the face and they can't change it, manipulation in Islam was done to the
Interpretations of Quran and in Hadith (second source of Sharia Law) during the early ages of Islam, #uck islam i dont want to talk about it, it is a
sick religion, if you have a lot of free time then go study islam to see how all this Sharia Law works, i had my share and am done with it.