The moment Mubarak's men were lynched : New video shows brutal mob justice

Fresh footage of the full brutality of violence on the streets of Egypt has emerged, showing vicious clashes between protesters and supporters of President Hosni Mubarak. Posted on YouTube, the videos feature a pro-Mubarak van driver being surrounded and dragged from his vehicle by a mob of anti-government demonstrators.

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Please go to the main article to see many still shots and additional info. Just look at the masses of people.

What the hell would happen in the USA if this stuff kicked up? I think too many cities. Maybe a total shut down a D.C but I don't think many people would be as worked up as these folks. They must have it pretty bad to risk everything.

Pretty smart for Murbarck to give all federal employees a 15% payraise. Heck, 1/3 of the people were to have reportedly left the protest but I think the checks must have bounced by the looks at all the people.

On the Bring of Civil War it seems. Shows what your next door neighbor is capible of ... when you are trying to run them over.

In the US? Hehe those one million citizens would be armed. Would be much worse than Egypt I am afraid, and not for the good guys.


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They've had thirty years to get riled up.

Thirty years of "emergency rule" where the government could do anything, to anyone, at any time with no consequences for the regime.

The protesters know that if they buy into Mubarak's lies and hollow gestures now and go home they will be slaughtered or imprisoned one by one.

It's well past the tipping point where nothing but Mubarak leaving will even begin to satisfy these reform-hungry people in the streets.

The Us Marines is on is way to egypt today will see what side they on!

Originally posted by dr3ws
The Us Marines is on is way to egypt today will see what side they on!

whose side would they be on? the elites? hmmmm, what could the elites possibly want to rule the middle-east for? such a quandry

Originally posted by dr3ws
The Us Marines is on is way to egypt today will see what side they on!

Probably just to provide security and transportation for Americans and other evacuating nationals.

One shot fired though and this could cause the middle east to explode; too many arabs in other states have become enthralled with this almost unheard of protest by the citizenry. They've bought into the idea that they should have a say in their governments, and the arab "street" is almost completely on the side of the protesters.

Not funny at all, but I bet the Knesset is having a hard time keeping up the supplies of antacids on hand.

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It won't be much of a surprise as to who the Marines are supporting. Follow the money.

Or

are they going there to protect pyramid or artifacts? The stuff no one really knows about-except the higher levels of the secret gov'ts?

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They've had thirty years to get riled up.

Thirty years of "emergency rule" where the government could do anything, to anyone, at any time with no consequences for the regime.

Mubarak has not been perfect by any means, but you must understand, too, that he did a lot of what he did for *true* security reasons. People from all over the world became willing to visit Egypt because they felt safe under the status quo he & perhaps others created. Tourism = Employment for his citizens.

Prior to that, why have we heard, and, to a small extent, still hear sayings like "HEgypted Me'? Because if there wasn't a strong use of force, then the global pop. holiday/vacation-wise would NOT go there! Thieves, pick-pocketers and worse were once the norm. Slowly, Egypt became a much safer place for foreigners to visit.

These videos, while brutal and alarming, I am sad to say, are one true depiction and illustration of the population unleashed without an iron fist; but with a velvet touch.

How do I know for sure? Why must I speak the truth? I have been with an Arab man for over 12 years, and it's engrained in much of the Arab culture. Temper, temper, temper.....why I don't know. He admits it himself. He even claims that 9/11 could not have been *orchestrated* by Arabs *alone* because they could not get along with each other for the amount of time necessary to organize and execute the plans...

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I appreciate your point of view.

Like you, I have had many friends in the arab world over a long time. In my experience, one man's example does not set the pattern for an entire people as far as behavior or temperament.

The protesters did not turn violent until violence was used against them. You can only kick a dog so much before it snaps at you. They've been kicked for 30 years.

I believe what we are seeing is a regime desperate to maintain the status quo for selfish reasons, the benefits and rights those in the regime enjoyed, even as the people were neglected and oppressed and tortured and killed.

No worthy government tries to hide its actions via attacking journalists and information flow through the internet.

When the curtains come down and no one can see what is happening, and the spotlights are turned off, then the stage is set for oppression by the regime so as to maintain its survival and prosperity, not the people's.

People do not live to service a government.

The government must exist only to serve the people.

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Originally posted by mydarkpassenger

I appreciate your point of view.

I certainly appreciate your position as well, and agree with you on many statements.

While I was responding specifically to your post, I was generally addressing the OP's opening statement that didn't seen to be mentioned much in the thread so far, bolded mine:

Fresh footage of the full brutality of violence on the streets of Egypt has emerged, showing vicious clashes between protesters and supporters of President Hosni Mubarak. Posted on YouTube, the videos feature a pro-Mubarak van driver being surrounded and dragged from his vehicle by a mob of anti-government demonstrators.

The MSM would have us believe that all supporters of Mubarak are paid thugs...and while that may be true in a significant amount of cases, I don't think that all pro-Mubarak are in that category. I mentioned in a separate thread that some otherwise very, very poor Egyptians made very decent incomes (by the country's standards) in supplying tours/escorts and the like via horses, camels, bikes, etc. to tourists, especially in the ancient sites. My point is that the protesters of Mubarak seem to be more educated, and frustrated whereas the less educated and generally poorest of the people were content. Now all *their* employment has vanished as well because there is no tourism in sight. :down:

And, too, I know that the more educated will take whatever means necessary ala the Muslim Brotherhood (they recruit at universities) as the new ruling class and another Iran...but it should be the people's choice, just as it has been in Lebanon and Palestine... power to the people!

Like you, I have had many friends in the arab world over a long time. In my experience, one man's example does not set the pattern for an entire people as far as behavior or temperament.

I did not mean to stereotype the people as far as behavior or temperament, but having living overseas, I have witnessed this in Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Yemen, Iraq. Perhaps it is a collective consciousness of being taken over and over by the Ottomans, the British, the US. Perhaps it is the nature evolving from tribes, and injustices between them. I do not know.

No worthy government tries to hide its actions via attacking journalists and information flow through the internet.

I definitely agree with you on this point!

People do not live to service a government.

The government must exist only to serve the people.

Again, very much agreed! I love that you have made this a part of your signature.

Perhaps, I feel a sense of guilt out of how the US has served a role in all of this, friend....

Perhaps I am anxious that I am about to receive many dual citizens in the US in the coming weeks/months

I have been trying to put myself in these peoples place.

But I can't.

I cant' imagine living under one ruler-especially if you didn't like him or care for his way of things.

I think there is much more to the story/the build up that will come out later.

I heard that the Secret squads started rounding up webposters and twitters for their posting of info.

Just like Iran did. I wonder if there are screams in the night like it was in Terhan? Sad

You're all trying to make sense of something happening in Egypt.

Someone I know who lived there for quite some time, refers to Egypt as "The Land of No Sense."

Essentially, if you're trying to make sense of something happening in Egypt, Egyptian daily life, Egyptian government, Egyptian markets, roads, bathing, laws.....you should probably stop.

None of what any of them are doing makes any sense. At best thinking that they are all doing what they think is best for them personally might get you close, but when you factor in tradition, gender, social strata, and religious reasons into their idea of "personal best" the concept probably becomes warped to the point of unintelligibility.

The MSM would have us believe that all supporters of Mubarak are paid thugs...and while that may be true in a significant amount of cases, I don't think that all pro-Mubarak are in that category. I mentioned in a separate thread that some otherwise very, very poor Egyptians made very decent incomes (by the country's standards) in supplying tours/escorts and the like via horses, camels, bikes, etc. to tourists, especially in the ancient sites. My point is that the protesters of Mubarak seem to be more educated, and frustrated whereas the less educated and generally poorest of the people were content. Now all *their* employment has vanished as well because there is no tourism in sight. :down:

And, too, I know that the more educated will take whatever means necessary ala the Muslim Brotherhood (they recruit at universities) as the new ruling class and another Iran...but it should be the people's choice, just as it has been in Lebanon and Palestine... power to the people!

Ive not had the impression that MSM claim all supporters of Mubarak are paid thugs

You speak for the millions and millions of people living under dictatorships inside the middle east?

People say there are american government agents throlling online communities recruiting citizens to their payroll, ofcourse that doesnt mean every single left wing or right wing user online is on the payroll (depending on your pay master lol) there are people who just end up on the bandwagon unknowingly easily lead, easily bought only to regurgite more spin and disinformation

Obviously they're easily bought mislead Egyptian followers of Mubarak manlipulated with the same spin and fear tactics

There are theives and con artists preying on tourists and citizens in every country - the west isnt immune there either... we just dont torture them in jail

Muslim brotherhood only recieved 20% of the vote back in 2005

University educated youth and western educated youth living in Egypt are mostly liberal or left, christians or muslim who want democracy, freedom to express themselves, open elections, jobs, better standard of living, a new Egypt for the 21st century - they know what other countries have and they want that for their Egypt

Western leaders dont want Egyptians to gain independence, they're not too keen on allowing Egyptians to actually go for true democracy

They WILL go out of their way to meddle the process, spin, twist

Infact, they already have

Its clear as day they dont want Egyptians FREE ...
Vice President, Prime Minister, Interior Minister all part of the same Regime, same corrupt regime USA best men